Day 12 of the Tokyo 2020 Olympics turned out to be the day where Jill and Alison lost it. So much Olympic action, so much lost sleep, so many names to try to pronounce!
That said, Day 12 also features the race of the Games: 400m hurdles. Do yourself a favor and watch it (maybe again) before the show.
We’ve also got action in:
- Artistic Gymnastics – Last day of competition, and Simone Biles is back!
- Athletics – TKFLASTANI DeAnna Price competed!
- Baseball – We realize we don’t understand the tournament structure.
- Basketball
- Beach Volleyball – A major upset!
- Boxing
- Canoe Sprint
- Cycling – Track
- Diving – With the Russian Viking
- Equestrian
- Football
- Handball
- Hockey
- Sailing
- Sport Climbing – Jill’s vote for best new sport on the Olympic program
- Table Tennis
- Volleyball
- Water Polo
- Weightlifting
- Wrestling
Plus, our popular segments:
- Where’s Marnie McBean?
- What Officiating/Volunteer Roles Would We Want?
- TKFLASTAN Watch
- Fantasy League/Brackets Update
- What’s Up with Mike and Maya? – Could this guy be Maya’s dad?
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TRANSCRIPT
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Jill: [00:00:00] Olympics fans and lovers of Welcome to Keep the Flame Alive, the podcast for fans of the Olympics and Paralympics. I am your host, Jill Jaracz, joined as always by my lovely cohost, Alison Brown. Alison, Konichiwa.
Alison: I’m a little sore from going splat off
Jill: the high bar. Oh my goodness. It was an unbelievable.
Competition in artistic gymnastics, that club that closed it out. And you had talked yesterday about how lovely it was to have a gymnastics competition where if you fell, you were out, but,
Alison: Hmm. Well, we’ll
Jill: get to talking about. Exactly. Exactly. So it was day the 12th. We’re on day 12 already. We don’t know what day of the week it is anymore.
I can’t remember anything, but I just know that there are Olympics and there’s always something to watch. So let’s get to it. Follow up file. If you have not watched the women’s doubles badminton final, you have to go back and see this gracious Paulie and, uh, . Had this amazing moment at about 118 minutes in to the feed.
So rewind that a little bit, but if you only have a little bit of time go there. So they’re in the middle of a rally, the string breaks on gracious racket. She runs off. Get some new racket runs back on and the rally is still going on is just sort of keeping
Alison: it going while she’s off court.
Jill: It was insane.
And then they won the point. It was amazing. Their celebration was so much Grazie. It just pretty much breaks down cause she can’t believe it. So I looked a little into what the big deal was. Well, they were the first unceded pair to win doubles. Women’s doubles gold at the Olympics. They were the first.
Pair from Indonesia to win any medal in the women’s doubles discipline. Indonesia has now won Olympic gold in all five disciplines of badminton. And China is the only country who ha who has done this. I’d forgotten that we should know who Grecia poly is because she was one of the athletes disqualified in London.
For deliberately losing group matches to get better seating in the knockout BRAC round. Indonesia’s going a little nuts. The government is expected to give each gold medalist 5 billion Rubia, which is about $345,000. And they’re going to get other prizes too. In the past, winners have gotten houses, cars, and motorcycles, and the, and this is information courtesy of the south China morning post.
So the. Uh, vice mayor of, uh, Tomahawk where, uh, craziest family has roots is going to give her a piece of land. A YouTube influencer ref Muhammad is going to give both of them meet bulkier.
Alison: A lot of bizarre
Jill: fries. Um, and then another, uh, entrepreneur is going to give each of them a 500 million Rubia, which got to be not, not a bad price, either the tourism and creative and economy minister is going to give them free travel to six of Indonesia’s biggest tourist attractions.
Alison: They could buy an entire island. I mean, Indonesia has, you know, many, many, many small unpopulated islands that could just have bad mitten haters.
Jill: There you go. So definitely a match worth watching had a follow up on the women’s 1500, because we mentioned Stefan Hassan from Netherlands had won gold in the 5,000.
But what we didn’t really know was she had the 1500 meters earlier that day. These were the heats and she tripped as part of a chain collision, caught up, caught up with the rest of the group. And then one time. And then later on that day, went on to win the 5,000 meters. And I know she’s got this insane schedule because she’s running like a three or four races and they’re all long distance.
How I know people, I know at least the announcers in America, like, oh my, this 200 meter sprinters got a race in the morning and then another race right after it all, how are they going to manage? And, uh, she’s just doing these insanely long distances. So basically
Alison: she’s just running the entire time. She’s in Tokyo,
Jill: right?
Between the
Alison: capes and the semi’s of the, I think she’s in three distance
Jill: events. Yeah, it’s, it’s crazy. And I [00:05:00] had read somewhere that she declined to go through the mix zone and for after one of her races and the official was like, basically she said, I got to go rest for my next race and good on her for saying no.
So
Alison: when I was a kid, there was a commercial for a local news station about there goes that news van again, meeting the news van was everywhere. So I think a Tokyo it’s oh, those Soufan Haas. And again,
Jill: Everywhere on the track yesterday, we talked about my officiating or volunteer job, possibly being, driving the relief pitcher cart at the baseball venue.
Well, that apparently is getting mixed reaction from the players. According to the Asahi Shimbun, w I’ll put an article up in the Facebook group and I’ll probably tweet it out too, because, uh, this cart is not new to Japan, pro baseball, but. These carts were apparently made for the games, because I believe they’re labeled Tokyo 2020, and some of them just don’t know what to do with it.
And, and don’t, they just don’t like the ride. They’re a little worried that it’s not going to be safe. So I don’t know if I’d want to do that job now
Alison: to be held in the comfort of the leather of the club. It does not cush in them the way.
Jill: With the Belorussian situation, uh, the IOC has decided to launch a formal investigation of the situation and the national Olympic committee of Belarus.
They have said, we don’t know how long this will take. So it, I, I would not imagine that this is going to be done before the end of the games. So keep listening to the podcast after we will keep an eye on it. I’ve
Alison: vaguely remembered. In the winter, there was an investigation of the Belarusian NSA
Jill: does that.
I think some strongly worded leather letters were sent, because remember there were allegations that some athletes were being withheld funding because they disagreed with the government. And that’s a, that’s a real tough issue here. So they felt they were being discriminated against and went to the IOC.
And the IOC is like, oh yeah, you got to stop doing this. So Belarus is living on the edge. In rural 50 protests, the New York times reported that, uh, Raven Saunders who won a silver in the shot put and after the medal ceremony was over, but, well, she was still on the podium. She had a protest. Um, she said there were a whole group of Americans who are planning to protest.
So we’ll see what happens throughout the games. Uh, race and Bowden was apparently protesting with the black X, with a circle around it that he had on his hand. And it’s funny because. You it’s really hard to find a picture of it because his hand that hand is either behind a back or it’s angled so that you can’t see it with a camera.
And, uh, somebody on Twitter pointed out, well, he’s getting a lot of press, but you know, if you don’t see the protest, how long does that press really last?
Alison: Is it a protest? If nobody sees.
Jill: Right, right, right. Well, we’ll get to hammer throw in a minute. But the other big athlete that people were going to look at was Gwen Berry, who didn’t even make it to the finals of the women’s hammer throw.
So if she had planned a protium protests, It wasn’t going to happen. So we’ll see what else. Uh, any other Americans come up with? However, some other people who could be in trouble for a rule, 50 violation are bowel. Shanju do an from China who are the women’s team, sprint track, cycling champions. They wore pins with a former Chinese president, Mao Zedong on the podium.
And that is a violation of showing Politico. Things on the podium. So the IOC has asked for an explanation of that in COVID news, a Moldovan Olympic official, who is acting as a COVID-19 liaison officer at Tokyo 2020. Went sight seeing in the Japanese capital. So now he’s been accused of gross violations.
You know, when you’re a COVID-19 liaison, it’s pretty much understood that you follow the COVID. All right.
Alison: Remember when I said don’t be stupid, like a hundred times before the games, maybe I should’ve had it translated into multiple languages,
Jill: right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Inside the games reported that Georgian national ShotPut record holder Bennett Brahmin, who was due to take part in the shop put qualifying competition was suspended provisionally, following an adverse finding of an out of competition test on July 31. It showed traces of two ban steroids [00:10:00] and he did not commit.
That’s interesting that they’re catching things before competition happens. I think, yeah, I do hope that that’s the case. We’ll find out if, uh, anybody else decides to be stupid. In other news, uh, some Australian athletes caused damage to their athlete’s village rooms before they left. And, uh, what happened is a few beds were broken and a hole was put into a wall.
Nothing was said about how big the hole was, but, uh, they apologized and, you know, the. Um, team, uh, chef de mission, uh, Ian Chesterman said, oh, well, you know, they apologized and kids will be kids, so they’re not going to do any disciplinary action. And also because the beds are cardboard and they’re like, you know, the beds are probably gonna break.
But
Alison: to me, the better part of the story is that the life-size mascots went missing. And just the fact that there is an emo and a kangaroo as life-sized mascots and the team Australia block is the most interesting part of this story to me,
Jill: but they came back home. Chesterman said in the Asahi Shimbun, they reported that.
He said, it seems they enjoyed a pleasant holiday in Deutschland, the mascots enjoy holidays in the village from time to time. But we’re very pleased that they are back.
Alison: Well, uh, Marnie McBean has been posting how OSHA the Canada’s moose has been wandering around the village. So this seems to be a way for the athletes to have a little fun in this sort of no fun situation.
They’re stuck in
Jill: exactly Mr. Meredith posted in our Facebook group. A question, wondering what would happen for. If anything as a remembrance of the victims of the 1945, Adam bombing in Hiroshima, and guess what? The IOC rejected Hiroshima’s request to honor these victims by having a moment of silence at the venues and other Olympic places.
On the day of the bombing, the organizing committee said there were various reasons for this because, uh, and the biggest one is that the closing ceremony has a segment, commemorating people who have died in historic tragedies. And it’s based on an IOC policy. That’s when people of Hiroshima should share their feelings basically.
Alison: Well, considering it took them all this time to acknowledge the victims of 1972, that happened at an Olympics. They’re certainly not going to jump to acknowledge the victims of Hiroshima.
Jill: Right. I would agree with you on that. So where is Marnie McBean today? So, so far she
Alison: has been to canoe, sprint volleyball, water polo, and sport class.
Jill: Very nice. She’s getting around. She
Alison: is not
Jill: letting up what officiating or volunteer job do we want.
Alison: So remember, you mentioned a few days ago about the athlete moment where they had the screen so that athletes could talk to their families at home. Right? Well, it seems like it is at every venue and yesterday at athletics.
I noticed that there is an assistant who helps get the right screen connected.
Jill: I want to be like connecting people. This is so you and the mass part
Alison: was after the hurdles, which we’ll get to the Brazilian runner. Does Santos, the girl who had helped with standing there crying. Aw. She was watching him talk to his family.
Jill: Aw. Awesome. Yeah. And I think you would also be like, just have a, you’d have your, your headphones and whatever radio communication. And the clipboard. And then you would have like a big box of Kleenex around your neck because you wouldn’t need it for every athlete. I think I’d
Alison: have it on my hip so that everybody could just take one as they come by.
Jill: I saw the hurdle cart that you mentioned after the 400 meter hurdles, I sat in like, Ooh, that is a job to have. However, you know, with the end of the. Um, gymnastics competition. There is a job that I found out about during the U S classic gymnastics meet when our chipless Dani Chelsea memo, uh, fell off the, the uneven bars.
And there is a position who is a timer who times the 30 seconds that they have to get back on the bars. And I’m very good with timing, 30 seconds on a stopwatch, and they have very good stopwatches. So I would love to have. How is our fantasy league doing?
Alison: Pretty much the same as yesterday, uh, in the main fantasy league, Sheryl [00:15:00] Istan is still killing us all at 6 87.
India delight is holding strong and second at 2 75. Colibri is at 2 48. I’m sorry, gel. You fall into fifth.
Jill: That’s okay. I keep forgetting to lock in my days and I’m doing it to myself and
Alison: brackets are unchanged from, uh, the last couple of days. So I guess we haven’t
Jill: gotten. Okay. Very good. So what is up with Mike and Maya?
This is Mike and Maya, who are in the Toyotas, a first date ad where Mike asks Maya to the dance in the school hallway, except for Mike is actually on a big robot propelled screen because Mike is in the hospital with broken leg. Um, and we’ve seen it about. 25,000 times. It’s it’s amazing, but I will, I, I will know that there are new commercials going on my feed nonstop because I’m, I’m getting sick of the guy who can’t figure out where the tennis park is without Google.
Anyway. So listener Brian has a theory. He thinks that Maya’s dad. Is the guy in the Chevy truck commercials, which are also on play, I guess, on the broadcast stream, because there is a cat in the commercial who acts like a dog and the cats name is Walter and Walter like jumps in the water and fetches balls and, you know, chases cats up trees and does all these things that dogs would do.
And, uh, and when I, when I looked at this screen, He does bear a striking resemblance to Maya. You could put the two, you could say that if they were standing next to each other. Yeah. I’d believe that she is his kid. So there’s potential for a big log automotive collaboration at the Olympics,
Alison: but would that mean that Walter is also Maya’s cat?
Cause I think Maya would have a much cooler cat. Walter
Jill: and Walter, well, yeah, she’d have to, unless her parents were divorced and she lived with mom because dad also looks like he could be living
Alison: on his own because he’s going on all these adventures, just with Walter, the cat. I could see him being a divorced dad.
Yeah.
Jill: Because he’s really into that workspace on his truck. So he probably has a workable. Hmm. Okay. To be continued. I, and if you have a theory about Mike and Maya, we would love to hear it. You can post it in our Facebook group or email us@flamealivepodatgmail.com. Or you can text her voicemail us at 2 0 8 3 5 2 6 3 4 8.
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Jill: pet. Our first competition is artistic gymnastics, and this is the end of the tournament for them.
Alison: We’ve all survived. The gymnastics competition
Jill: barely.
So this was men’s parallel bars and horizontal bar and women’s balance beam, all individual competitions. Now you saw. Part of this, I
Alison: saw part of parallel bars and then NBC quickly embargoed my feed before I finished.
Jill: Okay. And then I woke up just in time for Simone Biles on balance beam and watched the rest of the balance beam competition, and then had the [00:20:00] horizontal bar on and, and kind of looked up from time to time as.
Yeah, exactly. Oh my goodness. That was just really crazy. So in parallel bars, gold went to China’s zagging won a silver, went to Germany’s Lucas dowser and bronze went to Turkey’s. A fair, hot Aurecon and balanced bean. China took the gold and the silver one tension won gold and tongue. She, Shane won silver and Simone Biles came back and won the bronze
Alison: and did in fact.
Change her routine. She changed, she changed her dismount and I think she took out one series in the middle.
Jill: Oh, okay. I wasn’t aware of that, the series, but I knew she took out the twist. So she just did a double pike as a dismount. So that was a little lower difficulty for her, but her routine was clean and very well done.
I was honestly a little, she did some wolfs. And I was honestly worried that that would mess up her equilibrium a bit and did not seem to factor it was, she seemed to be very happy to be back in competition. The beam competition was really good. The Chinese gymnast were. They won for a reason because they were excellent.
It, this is
Alison: the first time that China has really factored all comp all tournament. It’s been disappointing Olympics for them. So it’ll be interesting to see in the next, it’s not a quad, it’s a trio, I guess, the next three years, because gymnastics is a place where they expect to medal a lot and they did not this time
Jill: then in the mentors on toolbar ha.
When you fall in horizontal bar, you really fall. And, and you talked yesterday about how great this apparatus is. And it is also my favorite apparatus in the men’s and genus were falling off left and right falling twice in one routine. So if it, it just was, it was really, really sad if you were clean or cleanish, you.
You could’ve gotten on the Mo medal stands. So gold went to Japan’s Hashimoto dykey. Silver went to Croatia, 10 and bronze went to ROC Nikita to Nagorny. So
Alison: usually in high bar in the apparatus final cause you’ve got high bar specialists, they’re doing these release moves that are not humanly possible, but this, everybody felt that.
Jill: Yeah. And again, that goes back to the conversation we had about, is it better to have more difficulty and not have a clean routine or have a clean routine with less difficulty or an end with the not clean routine with a high difficulty. You’re also dealing with a higher danger factor. So it’ll be interesting to see if.
Cares about that to be quite honest. Well,
Alison: fig has already released the new code of points leading into Paris. I wonder if they will amend them. They have not done that in a big way. You know, they’ve made little changes because you know, things that have been introduced, but I wonder if they’ll turn around and say, you know what, we take it back.
We’re going to redo it again, based on what happened at this Olympics, which is usually how they do it.
Jill: And Nastia Liukin said on Twitter, that nothing makes me happier than the rules being changed. And the tie at the Olympic games not being broken, especially if, and when the difficulty plus execution scores are the exact same.
So that must be talking about the floor routine with the double
Alison: bronze. Yes. Yes. So we were right to be confused. There was a rule change.
Jill: Uh, moving over to artistic swimming, where our Shockless Donnie, Jacqueline, Seminole, and Claudia Holzer, uh, competed in the duet technical routine. They are sitting in fifth place and have qualified for the final round.
They were thrilled with their scores. They were, which is good.
Alison: So themes that we saw in artistic swimming, we saw baseball routine, including hats,
Jill: which I did see. I didn’t watch all of it because. I love Jacqueline and I know artistic swimming is insanely difficult, but it is also off the deep end when you’re talking about these routines, because I saw the baseball one and I went baseball hints, and I did see the CanCan one too.
Alison: Is, did you see the one where they did the rock version of for Elise and they were piano?
But the best one was the Mexican pair who did Flashdance with the headbands.[00:25:00]
Jill: And I know Jackie has told us that the costumes are a little Riddick.
Alison: If you watch nothing else, please go watch the Mexicans and their Flashdance because they’re maniacs in the pool
Jill: where they maniacs and their deck work to.
Alison: They were, they did the whole little leg move from the movie.
Jill: Oh my goodness.
Oh my God. Because I also love deck work and the fact that it’s pretty much expected, but they don’t. But you have like 30 seconds to, to stretch your stuff and then jump in the mood. Right. And it’s just like, well, if you’re not going to, I feel like artistic swimming is one of those sports where somebody did something that was a little extra and it caught everybody’s eye.
And they said, oh, we gotta do that too. And that’s where we’ve gotten all these just outlandish elements. That’s competition of the. And that happens on your head. Yeah. And that’s why people make fun of it. So, oh, by the way, because you mentioned this to me before we taped. If you haven’t seen the shark fins, they will be back because they’re doing the freestyle routine.
One more time. I will be tuning into that in athletics. If you have not watched the men’s 400 meter hurdles, just stop the podcast right now. Go pull it up. It is the race of the Olympics hands down and also really sad that there aren’t 70,000 people in that stadium watching it. Holy cow. So in just a few weeks ago, Karsten, VAR home.
Got the world record in the 400 meter hurdles. They hadn’t been broken the last time. It was, that was like 1992. Yes, we’re going like that. And so he got the old record. It was 46 point 70. He goes out for this final and gets a 45 point 94, obliterates his record by almost a second, which is an incurred of he’s running at almost as fast as a regular 400 sprinter would do.
And he’s jumping over 10 hurdles while he’s doing it. Then the race is fantastic because for our home’s known for his quick starts and he did get out quick. And the other big competition was a USA’s rye, Benjamin, and he’s known for his finishes. So he was coming strong on the finish with like two hurdles to go and, uh, he’s coming up and he’s just about even to VAR home.
And I thought, oh my goodness, Benjamin’s going to pass. And all of a sudden, our home found another gas tank in his feet and turned it on and just pulled away from him and won in this brand new world. Record time, Ryan Benjamin, no slouch either. He came in at 46 point 17, which would have broken the world record.
Which is insane. Uh, Brazil’s Alison to Santos. He came in at 46.72, which was almost the world record. He got a personal best and nationally like seven of the eight finalists got world records or national records or area records or season’s best times it was an amazing, amazing race.
Alison: If you like beautiful running, this is the race to watch and they were all so excited.
But confused. It seemed like their reaction was just, we all just broke the world record and yet I didn’t win. It was unbelievable. The funniest moment was at the very hand, Carsten RAR home went to tear open ish. But the top didn’t unhook. So we sort of ended up with this cute little key hole opening, but he didn’t quite know what to do with himself.
So we sorta went to do the shirt tear, but it didn’t tear. And then he realized what happens and he kind of falls over, but then he’s excited again.
Jill: I noticed that shirt tear too. And then
Alison: he starts to cry, but then he starts to jump up and down. He didn’t quite know what to do with himself. And that was really
Jill: amazing and what I would love to know, and this is something to see if it’s in the coverage, how did the heat affect them?
Because it was really hot. At the stadium and it was nearing 40 degrees or so Celsius. So we’re getting into like the upper nineties with the, and then you add the humidity, which takes it over a hundred degrees and other, you could tell that other athletes in other parts of the track [00:30:00] of the athletics competition were suffering from the heat, but I don’t know if it’s that hot.
Does it make you run fast? Are you just like, I got to get back inside. Let’s just get this over with as quickly as possible because Karsten is a Norwegian Viking. Very true.
Alison: So I’d also like to point out that once again, this Alison not
Jill: me, the whole group of the medalists here are so talented and should just be really proud of what they did cause.
Unbelievable. What happened at that race at the women’s long jump Germany’s Meloxicam, humble, won gold. And she was thrilled just like I can’t believe. And you know, I do feel bad for the jumpers because they’re jumping up, you know, they realize they’ve won and they’re jumping up and down. And it’s not like the end of a race where everybody saw the finish.
You just have to hope that some people were watching your long jump competition too, and, and can celebrate with you. Um, silver went to the USA’s Brittany Reese and bronze went to Nigeria, his essay brumate uh, in the men’s pole vault. Sweden’s Armand Duplantis won gold. USA’s Christopher Nelson won silver and Brazil’s Tiago bras won bronze.
I have to go back and watch this because I missed it. And. I just had a horrible morning with trying to figure out what was on when, where was the right feed that I needed to be watching. And I just kept missing things. And that made me very sad. And I was
Alison: having all kinds of trouble with NBC embargoing feeds in the middle of me watching things
Jill: which also stinks.
And that makes for a very frustrating experience. So NBC got to figure this out because of the digital games. There are things to say, and NBC’s just way a lot of their coverage coverages low in it. Fashioned. Yeah. Um, but that is when I do want to go back and watch because Duplantis is a really good pole vaulter.
Uh, in the women’s hammer throw, oh,
Alison: what a rough competition. People were fouling left and right. And they seem to be having all kinds of trouble with the cage. And pretty early on, they tried to be, officials were resetting the cage and it still didn’t seem right.
Jill: It looked a lot narrower. I know it’s a narrow opening, but it looked narrow to me.
And again, tons of people. Scratch and scratch for hitting the cage. And you also had a lot of people scratching because they left the circle before they were allowed to, and it really affects. Our socialist Dani Deanna price, because she had a couple of scratches. She got to throw off. That was like in the 72 meter range.
And if you remember, like at the U S trials, she hit 80 meters and she’s just not throwing as well. And she looked really happy when she did the walkout. And then as a competition started going on, she just looked more concerned and more anxious and was trying, you could see her trying to get out of it and just in her eyes and how she carried her body, trying to get out of that.
She managed to get eighth place in the first round, which allowed her to be in the finals, but she couldn’t get out of eighth. Her best throw was 73 0 9, which was five meters behind the goal.
Alison: Yeah, I’d be interested to see what was happening with that cage because I’ve never seen so many people hit the cage.
Jill: Yeah. Oh, oh and another, um, another thing where, when I first turned on the coverage, I found what was being broadcast and it was, uh, it was the usual American coverage of attract meet, which is we’ll show every single step that a sprinter takes. And then we’ll cut over to the hammer throw and we’ll cut over to the shot, put, and we’ll cut over here and then we’ll come back because you know, a sprinter moved their hand and we have to show them.
So in one of the things, uh, a hammer got stuck in the case. Pretty high up and they had to get a Le and the, the announcers were saying, oh, they usually get a ladder over to get it down. And you know what? I wanted to see that ladder and them getting this hammer down and they cut over to something else.
And then I was like, oh my goodness, my feet, my feet. And then I found it on the, on my, my computer. I found the feed, but I couldn’t go backwards. Enough to get to, so now I gotta put that on my list too, because they
Alison: were embargoing the feed. Yeah. But you know what I did see,
Jill: what did you see? The little
Alison: mini ambulance, bringing the hammers back to the throwers.
Jill: I love those things. That’s fantastic. But yeah, it was [00:35:00] really tough for Deanna. I, and I want to know, I’d like to know if he was a factor in the humidity, because if they were sweating a lot, did that affect how they held or made it hard to. Throw the hammer at the right time. Cause it’s really a lot of precision timing when you, when you throw those things.
So, uh, very rough Gwen Berry didn’t even make it into this round of eight people, but gold went to, uh, Poland, Anita vault, vulvar chick. And she is a three-time winner, which is pretty amazing. Silver went to China’s Wangan and bronze went to Malvina copra also from Poland. So that was nice. That two Polish athletes were on the stand in the women’s 800 meters gold went to USA’s moot, a ting silver went to great Britain, Keeley, Hodgkinson, and bronze went to USA’s Raven ride.
So in the women’s 200 meter final Goldwind to Jamaica’s Elaine Thompson, Hara silver went to Namibia is Kristin MOBA. Bronze went to USA’s Gabriel Thomas. So Thomas
Alison: Hara has a double.
Jill: Pretty impressive. Very good. In baseball in the knockout stage, a Dominican Republic, B Israel, seven six. Now I realized that, uh, people have been talking about the fact that baseball is a double elimination tournament, which we have messed up.
I have to say because we kept thinking that, oh, we have knockouts and semis and the, and they’re going to go on to the finals, but there’s a double elimination. So even though the U S lost to Japan yesterday, they can still make the gold medal. So, I don’t even know where we are anymore with the baseball tournament.
We’re just playing games at this point. Not a good way to keep baseball in the games in basketball. It was the men’s quarterfinals and Slovenia defeated Germany, 94 to 70 USA, beat Spain, 95 to 81, France, Italy, 84, 75 and Australia beat Argentina. But I don’t have the score here. The men’s semi-finals will be USA versus Australia and Slovenia versus France.
In beach volleyball, uh, USA, Ross and climate and defeated. Germany’s lived at two, zero. They will face Switzerland’s verse Dupree and Heidrick who defeated Anna, Patricia and Rebecca two to one. They were for Anna, Patricia and Rebecca from Brazil. That was a stunning upset. And then, uh, Latvia’s Gardena and cross NOCCA defeated Canada’s Baisley and Wilkerson two to one and another.
Upset. This is stunning. Australia’s our Chacho solar and Clancy defeated. Canada’s like they’re the top of the, the, the world rankings, uh, Pavone and Humana parodies. Two to one. Wow. Wow. Wow. In boxing we have, uh, medals for the women’s feathers. Uh, Goldwind to Japan, Ray Senna, silver went to the Philippines, Nesty, Patricio, and bronzes went to Italy’s Irma, Testa and great Britain’s uh, Charisse arting style.
And the men’s welterweight gold went to Cuba’s or Anelle Yglesias. Silver went to great Britain’s pat McCormick bronze went to Albert, but teargas and Cuba’s Lazaro Elvis. In the canoe sprint in the women’s kayak, single 200 meter new Zealand’s Lisa Carrington won her third straight gold medal in this event.
So yay. Silver ferns. Uh, Spain’s Theresa Portella won silver and Denmark’s Emma one bronze.
Alison: I did watch this and here was the funniest part. The Portuguese racer was also named. Theresa Portella no. So it got very confusing. So he kept saying Spain and Portugal, but then he would say Teresa, and then he realized, wait, they have the same name and it’s pronounced slightly differently from the Portuguese and the Spanish.
But pretty much you had two women with the same name in the finals
Jill: together. Wow. I wonder if that’s happened before it, because. Interesting. And the men’s canoe double 1000 meters gold went to Cuba. Silver went to China and Germany took the bronze in a men’s kayak. Single 1000 meters gold went to Hungary’s volunteer Pash.
Silver went to Hungary’s. Adam Varga and bronze went to Portugal’s. Fernando pimento in the women’s kayak doubles, 500 meters gold went to New Zealand. Silver went to Poland and bronze went to. Very nice race. And track cycling hall. I could not, I haven’t watched this, but I’m very [00:40:00] excited to watch this.
Cause as we know, the easy velodrome has fans, but track cycling is also very cool and it was the women’s team pursuit and the men’s team sprint. And the women’s team pursuit Germany took the gold great Britain, took silver and bronze, went to the USA and the men’s team sprint, all lots of drama. Uh, the, uh, Alex Porter, who is an Australian cyclist, he was writing in his qualifier.
His handlebar snapped off. He went down, he got like a floor burns because he got, uh, burns and skin damage on his face, arms and legs. He passed concussion protocol. And so there is a rule in the cycling Federation that you can get a redo if you go down. Not because of something that like an act of God kind of thing.
So if you have a collision with another cyclist, so sad, too bad you’re out, but your handlebar snaps off. Well, that’s not supposed to happen. So you get to redo however, The team had already written a thousand meters. So they’re already tired. They’re in shock because they’re, their teammates been hurt. And if bike stamped apart, So they had to write, but they still had to write again and like within 30 minutes or so, and they couldn’t qualify on the second attempt.
They’re going to have to hope that they can get into the bronze medal race. And apparently the bike component that was involved with the crash has been taken off the market, says the Australian, have
Alison: they been taken off the market because of the accident or has been taken off the
Jill: wow, because of all of the sudden there are questions about the integrity of this company.
Uh, like immediately and thank you to a listener, Jennifer for sending us that story. It’s intense. And, and in, in case I’ve messed this up, th the Alex Porter crash happened in the men’s team pursuit.
Alison: Oh, right. Cause Alex could be women or men. No, I think you said it was in the men’s team.
Jill: Okay. I don’t know any more in diving.
The men’s three meter springboard finals took place. Did you see any of this? I watched the whole thing. Oh, how, tell me all about it. It
Alison: was up and down. So there was some amazing, beautiful dive. The Chinese were beautiful. The Brits kind of split, there were rounds that were perfect. And there were rounds that were a mess, but you have to watch it if, just to see if Guinea Coots and off he’s the ROC diver.
He has this long bushy beard and these two tattoos on each side of his bald head, he really looks like.
Jill: Um, is he a Russian Viking?
Alison: Apparently? I didn’t know we had Russian Vikings, but clearly when you see a guy you’ll be frightened of him, I would not dive against him because I think he might come out of the water and it made with something.
Jill: Well, I definitely will check that out.
Alison: And the other thing that was really fun was the other British diver, uh, James. Is this giant ginger from Edinburgh who you would not expect to be such a beautiful diver. He had a rough up and down, but when he was on man, is he gorgeous
Jill: to watch? All right. And that the China’s as she CE one gold, uh, China’s Wang, Chung Kwan, one silver and great Britain’s Jack law.
One. In equestrian. I haven’t gotten to watch this, but people will want to know because people have been asking about, uh, Jessica Springsteen, the jumping conference competition got underway. It was the individual qualifier and she did not make it on. She is writing down one Vanda dunk code. And she placed a tide for 31st place.
She had four penalties scored, 87.15 points. And it only the top 30 writers moved on, but she tied, she tied for 31st with one tooth, like 11 people tied for 31st. So it wasn’t like they were, they were far out of the mix. In, uh, football, the men semifinals happened, uh, Brazil and Mexico were tied at the end of regulation, but Brazil one and then shootout four to one and Spain beat Japan, one to nothing.
And that makes me feel bad because I think the host nation to do well, but there’ll be planned for the bronze on the women’s side. Uh, us goalkeeper, uh, Alyssa not hair was hurt in. Uh, the last game that the U S played, she will not be playing in the bronze medal soccer match, uh, because she has suffered a hyperextension of her right knee and a bone contusion says us soccer in handball.
It was the men’s quarter-finals France defeated bummer ain 42 28. Spain defeated Sweden, 34 33. Denmark defeated Norway, [00:45:00] 31, 25, Egypt defeated Germany, 31, 26. I saw a little bit of the Egypt Germany match that looked intense. I really do want to go back and see, uh, Spain and Sweden because at one point game and Sweden’s kind of a powerhouse, huh?
So the semi-finals will be France and Egypt and Spain versus. And hockey men semi-finals oh, I tuned into some of the first half of Belgium and India and India was winning two nothing. So when I went back to look at the score and Belgium beat them five, two, what happened? What happened, India? You weren’t doing so well, but it was hot.
It was apparently really, really hot there. The hockey pitch and, um, Australia beat Germany 3, 2, 1. So. India and Germany will face off for the bronze and Australia and Belgium will be going for the gold. In sailing, uh, the four-lane Nacra 17 mixed headed final race. Gold went to Italy. Great Britain took silver and Germany took bronze.
There were races that were rescheduled from previous days and the women’s 49 or FX, which sadly are shiftless. Donnie’s Stephanie Roble and Maggie shade did not get to participate in gold. Went to Brazil. Silver went to Germany. Uh, bronze went to Netherlands and our shapeless Donny’s finished in 11th in the men’s 40 Niner gold went to great Britain, silver to New Zealand, bronze Germany, and in the men’s, uh, Finn gold went to great Britain.
Giles Scott for us, silver went to Hungary’s and bronze went to Spain’s of won Joan Cardona Monday. In sport climbing, they had the men’s combined qualification. Okay. I watched this, I watched some of it. I had the feed on and I would mute it from time to time skateboarding, freestyle BMX. Surfing, all of you commentators tune into sport climbing and listen to the people on the feed, do the job the way it’s supposed to be done.
They are so good at explaining the sport as you go along and then like cut away to, uh, remind you what the, the degree angle of the courses like and show you different things. And they talk about, oh, the core center intended this for this to happen. And they’re trying to figure, you know, it’s really fun to see the creativity in these climbers.
Um, Honestly, I think this one is going to be the breakout of the new sports added to the program. Surfing might be up there because people seem to really like the surfing competition, but the coverage of it, I think, was so poor that it doesn’t make sense. Sport climbing, I think, is something that people will be able to understand.
And can get behind and kids could get excited about doing it because it looks cool. Um, the interesting part about this is that the sport climbing is made up of three disciplines and they combine all three of them. So first is a speed competition where they climb up this wall and they have to do it as fast as possible.
And they’re doing it in like six seconds, which is just kind of insane. And then you start thinking, well, everybody. This quick. And when you see somebody get like a seven second time, you can tell they just slow down and you, and that’s when you realize, oh, this is really, really hard. And I wish they had better cameras.
Sometimes they did. They got a different angle and like an angle from above, but I wanted to side angles so that you could see their legs move and the muscles were. Because they have that slump. Have you noticed how like super slow-mo the slow-mo is so much that like muscles ripple on everybody. Have you noticed that.
No,
Alison: I did not, but now I will look, oh,
Jill: rippling muscles watch. And it’s not even any muscles you want rippling, but you’ll see it in diving. Go watch the diving competition. You’ll see some stuff ripple and go. Wow. I didn’t know. That’s what that looked like, but, but I want to see the angle and I’d love to see more top down.
So you can better see the angle of, of what they’re climbing at. Cause they’re there at like five degrees or 15 degrees sometimes, uh, angling backwards. The, um, bouldering portion is a second bit. And as Josh Levin told us, they don’t get to see that course. So it’s all three of the, the climbing walls. In the same venue and they’re all kind of together, but bouldering is all covered up and then they take it down to take down the cover and the, the climbers can’t see it.
And they come out one at a time and they have four different problems. They have to solve. And honest to P I looked at those and went, oh, those look really easy. And then nobody was [00:50:00] getting through the first one. And then it was like, well, I learned my lesson, but I think I wonder what it’s like watching this in person because on TV, It doesn’t translate as well.
Cause I don’t think you see the difficulty that is in some of these things. I think some of the obstacles kind of flatten out in the rocks, flatten out a little bit, but, uh, that was cool. And then the last portion is lead where again, they’re going up this giant tower wall of rocks. And, but this time they’re attached to a rope, so they get as far as they can and they get to the top.
That’s great. But if the, if not, they just kind of fall off. Um, so it was a scary, the interesting thing is that, uh, and NPR, I believe had a story called, uh, talking about how real climbers hate the speed element because not everybody does that. And I think for Paris, they’re breaking out speed into its own competition and bouldering and lead, which there are a lot more similar.
And what climbers like about them is that you can be crazy. And that is true, especially in bouldering because you had to figure out the problem. And there are very many different creative ways to solve the problem. And, uh, one thing that commentators were mentioning is, uh, on one of the problems, somebody figured out how to solve the problem by facing the audience and many climbers before them.
Hadn’t and. The commentators would say, oh yeah, but that’s how the course, the course center intended that problem to be solved. Like, oh, you figured out what they wanted. Now I want to talk to a core center. You want to
Alison: talk to core centers in almost everything that has courses
Jill: everything. And, oh my gosh, Alice, you know how much I want to talk floors and turf.
Alison: I’m so excited, but you’d like to know how I would
Jill: solve this problem. How would you solve this problem?
Alison: And.
Jill: I get to see what have you hit the wrong button. That would be what is his Wiley coyote hit the wrong button or you dash into your competitor’s elevator and hit all of their buttons and then run out and get into yours.
Alison: I would do. Well the emergency button,
Jill: but yeah, if you haven’t watched sport climbing tune into it, because I think we still have finals and there’s still the women’s side to go and it, it, it does look really cool.
And I will say, I think this is, this is a sport that people will go. I love sport climbing at the Olympics and they watch it once every four years. But it
Alison: is something at least in the U S that’s pretty easy to try.
Jill: Yes. There are climbing gyms and climbing walls, you
Alison: know, and good for kids. Good for families.
It’s definitely one of those sports that could become very popular as an activity. And then you watch it. So you’ve got some connection
Jill: to. You know, and table tennis. We had some of the team qual quarter-finals on the men’s side, Japan defeated Sweden, three one in Germany, defeated Taipei three-two on the women’s side.
Uh, Germany defeated Korea three, two, and China defeated Singapore three, nothing. And then the women’s team had a semi-final and that was Japan beating Hong Kong three zero. In volleyball men had their quarter finals, uh, ROC defeated, Canada, three, nothing, Brazil defeated Japan, three, nothing, and Argentina defeated Italy.
Three, two in women’s water polo. We had the quarterfinals USA defeat to Canada. 16 five Spain defeated China 11 seven hungry defeated Netherlands 14, 11 ROC defeated Australia 900. And in the semi-finals, it will be ROC versus USA and Spain versus hungry. And in the fifth through eighth place classifications, it will be China versus Netherlands and Australia versus Canada.
Maybe Marnie will be bring her drum. You could probably hear it in that venue. And weightlifting. It was a men’s 109 kilos competition goals went to Uzbekistan’s Akbar. Uh, Jerry F silver went to Armenia’s Simon, Marty Roseann, and Le uh, Latvia’s Arturo Knicks, one bronze in wrestling. Our surplus Dani Alejandro Sanchez competed in the 67 kilos Greco, Roman, a round of eight.
He lost RFCs are 10 Surkov, 10 to four. It was not pretty. I have to say the Russian just looked a bit stronger, but
Alison: it was hard to watch. Not that it wasn’t a good match, but because I kept worrying that Sasha was really gonna get her.
Jill: Um, yeah, he got rolled a lot on this one, so, but Sandra, you made it that far so good for you and in the.
So they had finals in the men’s [00:55:00] Greco-Roman 77 kilos gold went to Hungary’s Tomas Laurent, a silver one to Kyrgyzstan’s Axel makhmudov bronze went to Japan’s yabby, CU Shohet and Azerbaijan’s Rafiq whose neon in the men’s Greco-Roman 97 kilos gold went to our OCS. Moosa of low of silver, went to, uh, Armenia’s Artur, Alexa, neon.
Bronze went to Poland, Italia MC Alec and Iran. Uh, Mohammed ADI, Sarah V in the women’s freestyle, 68 kilos gold went to, uh, Tamra Mariana Mensa stock from the U S so I really want to see her about and want and her victory ceremony to hear Jason. Announced her her name. Cause he gets so, so proud. And, uh, silver went to Nigeria, blessing overdue and bronzes went to Ukraine’s also Choco church Sova and Kyrgyzstan’s Miriam Zuman was a rough.
Sorry, I need a moment. The fun thing. Okay. One of the fun things about Tamara Mensa stock is that in somehow in the, the registrations and all of the standings, they reversed her names. So she’s stock Mensa, like they do family name first and then given. Yes. So I kept the first time I saw her, uh, compete, which was earlier on in her competition.
I’m like stock Mensa. I thought she was meant to stock and it was so confusing to me. Then I reached out to Jason and he’s like, yeah, they changed it around here. If you know, we’re in day 10, day 11, and you’re just losing your mind at this point, I just cannot deal with somebody switching somebody whose name around on me.
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Alison: thankfully there’s not a lot of shit plus Don going on tomorrow, so maybe we’ll get some rest. Uh, Jacqueline, Seminole and partner, Claudia holes, neuro compete in the finals of the duet, artistic swimming competition.
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Alison: or the Bulgarian baseball where the CanCan girls will kick them in that
Jill: I do have to say I’m bummed that the CanCan people don’t have like little fruit. On their suit, but I guess lost opportunity, right? You can put frills strategically and still have those super high cut suits because you want to show off the light.
Alison: Just saying they managed to get headbands and neon colors.
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