We’re headed back to Sydney 2000 for another episode in our history series on these Games. It was the first time women were allowed to compete in Olympic weightlifting, and not surprisingly, there was controversy. It was also the first time for women’s Paralympic powerlifting, which spawned some legends in Paralympic history. Could our TKFLASTANI Louise Sugden make this list? Jill’s got the scoop on these events (plus, let’s not forget Pyrros Demos’ third consecutive gold medal)
Then Alison explores the Sydney 2000 Olympic football competitions, where underdogs prevailed on both the women’s and the men’s side. Which Davids took down which Goliaths?
In the women’s competition, the US–coming off of a stellar Women’s World Cup victory (with this epic moment from Brandi Chastain), only to have a controversial final match at Sydney 2000:
On the men’s side, surprise Atlanta 1996 winner Nigeria couldn’t maintain their stride, and wasn’t able to defend their gold. This paved the way for a new nation to make its mark on Olympic history:
It was an intense match, a nail-biting finish–all in front of one of the largest crowds in football history. No pressure!
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Thanks so much for listening, and until next time, keep the flame alive!
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391-Sydney 2000: Football, Weightlifting, Para Powerlifting
Jill Jaracz: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to another history episode of Keep, the Flame Alive, the podcast for fans of the Olympics and Paralympics. If you love the games, we are the show for you. I’m your host, Jill Jaracz, joined as always by my lovely co-host, Alison Brown. Allison. Hello, how are you?
Alison Brown: Hello. I’m excited about my story.
Oh good, because it was very what I thought, I mean, this is kind of why we do this. What I thought I remembered was not. What actually happened.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, okay. So it was nice to set the record straight in our brain. In my brain.
Oh man. Well, before we get to the stories we’ve got, uh, you’ve got football and I have, women’s weightlifting and. pair of power lifting or actually it was just called power lifting at the time. Uh, women were in Sydney for the first time for those two events, and, uh. We’ll get to that.
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Sydney 2000 Olympics: Women’s Weightlifting
Jill Jaracz: Every year we pick one particular games to look at all throughout 2025. That is Sydney, 2000 as it is the 25th anniversary of those games. We are talking about women’s weightlifting and power lifting and also football. you went first, last time, so I will go first this time and let’s get the, weird stuff out of the way first.
Alison Brown: Oh, now I’m intrigued.
Jill Jaracz: Well, you know, men’s weightlifting was on the first summer Olympics program at Athens in 1896, though it wasn’t included in 1900, 19 0 8 or 1912. I know that’s a, you know, another thing to go on the list, but it, that’s when hosts could more choose what came and went.
They chose like the entire program. So, uh, those three games said no weightlifting, but, then it came back on the program it’s been on, but women’s weightlifting not on the program until [00:03:00] Sydney 2000. In fact, women were originally banned from competing in weightlifting altogether. The constitution of the International Weightlifting Federation stipulated that the sport was for men only.
Is this a uterus thing again? Don’t know. I should go back and find a, a constitution and that’s gonna take a little more digging than I had time for this week. But in 1983, there was a US led movement to include women in the sport. And they said if the IWF didn’t include them, they would form their own federation.
And we saw in with the Women’s Olympics back in the twenties, how well that worked. So they were not, all too keen in the weightlifting federation to have that happen again. So there was a lot of negotiating going on. And in October of that same year. The IWF added a women’s division.
Shocking. Yes. First women’s world Champs took place in 1987, but it would take another nine years before the [00:04:00] IOC voted to include women’s competitions at the Olympics. This was voted on in at the IOC executive Board meeting in December, 1996. So four years ahead of Sydney, we’re gonna have women’s weightlifting in the games. So to compensate for the additional athletes that the women would bring in two classes got dropped from the men’s competition. Yeah. And so they had eight classes, women had seven classes with the restriction that a country could enter no more than four classes for women, so that there was no country domination.
IE China. Because China had a lot of women weightlifters who were really, really good, so they could only enter four classes out of the seven. , Women’s competitions were no different than men’s. I. The winner was the one who lifted, lifted the most combined weight in the snatch and the clean and jerk, and they had three attempts in each lift.
[00:05:00] In case of a tie score, the person who weighed less would win. So it was a weight class thing, but if you weighed less in your class and you lifted the same amount as a heavier person, you won. Women’s competition. Had a lot of firsts that we will get to over the course of the story. So let’s just dig in.
According to Sports Illustrated, to start the competition at Sydney. female competitors were each given a Red Rose to welcome them. Oh, that’s actually lovely. Not everyone is thrilled about that. Oh, one male in insider who did not want to be identified, shocker said quote, The lack of depth in most of the women’s weight classes is ridiculous.
Alison Brown: Sounds like he needed a rose.
Jill Jaracz: competition started with the fly weight class and true to weightlifting’s problematic history. The very first women’s gold medalist Bulgarian Isabella Drag Neva tested positive [00:06:00] for the diary red Roe, and was stripped of her medal five days later. Of course, if you remember our Soul 1988 weightlifting story, this is not Bulgaria’s.
First time with having an issue of doping with weightlifting. The whole Bulgarian weightlifting team withdrew from soul. After two Bulgarian were caught using the same diuretic at Sydney. IOC executive board member and vice chair of the IOC medical Commission, Jacques Rogue, said that in total three Bulgarians drag, Neva, men’s broad medalist, uh, dulin, minche and silver medalist, even, even off all tested positive, the IWF banned them.
Trumping Juan Antonio Sam Ranch’s initial statement that the Bulgarian would have to pay a $50,000 fine to stay in the weightlifting competition. So for once, you know, the IOC said, oh, you know, we’ll make, let’s, we can make this [00:07:00] better. And the IWF said No. Not doing that probably
Alison Brown: for the first and last time.
Jill Jaracz: Right. So drag neve’s, disqualification meant that American Tara not moved up to first place in the 105 pound class. So she became the US’ first gold medalist in weightlifting. Since 1960. She actually lifted the same amount as silver medalist Indonesian Rema. Lisa Roomba was but not lifted. Uh, she won because she had the lower body weight.
And according to ESPN, not skipped the redo medal ceremony that they had so that she could cheer her teammate Cheryl Hayworth on in the super heavyweight class. And someone from the USOC filled in for her at this do-over ceremony. You had a fake medalist up there? I guess so. I, I can’t imagine they made a huge deal out of it.
It was just kind of like, here you go. but. That I thought was interesting. She’s like, no, I gotta good cheer my teammate on. Good on her. Actually, [00:08:00] uh, the lightweight class was one where a Chinese with lifter would have been the favorite, had China entered this class, but because they weren’t there, that made North Korean res song, hu the one to beat.
So ri was in the lead after the snatch with the Mexican. With Mexican SORAY Jimenez, just 2.5 kilograms. Behind her Jimenez was the niece of three time Olympic Equestrian Manuel Mandeville. Did she lift the horses for him? I don’t know, but it could have probably. She was a medal contender in her own right.
The clean and jerk portion re took too much time getting onto the platform and couldn’t get her second lift off within the time limit. So her lift was denied. North Korea protested the protest. Denied paving the way for Jimenez. Jimenez had a clean lift on a much heavier third lift to re, so she took home the gold and became the first Mexican female to win an Olympic [00:09:00] gold medal.
Uh, Jimenez retired after Sydney and unfortunately suffered a fatal heart attack in 2013 at the age of 35.
Alison Brown: Oh,
Jill Jaracz: rounding out this podium was Cassara porn. Suta, who was the first Thai women woman to ever win an Olympic medal. So we’ve talked before about the strategy in weightlifting, about how you choose your weight, and then other people choose their weight and then people go back and forth and scratch and change their weights all the time.
And. Had different choices been made in the strategy? The podium for the light heavyweight class would’ve been different. It also had a tie score for gold with Lee Lin We of China beating Zabe Marcus, Peresh Tegy from Hungary because Lin weighed less. However, India’s Malis had also been in the mix having paddled pre-sign allegations of drinking [00:10:00] beer and eating the wrong kinds of food, like a lot of fried food. Malis Wari could have won gold if it weren’t for choosing the wrong weight for her final lift.
So she was clean all competition, but on her last lift. She decided to lift 137.5 kilograms rather than 137. She failed and that gave her the bronze just 2.5 kilograms outside of gold. if she had made her original choice, she won, but instead she took on the bronze. But she was also the honor of being the first Indian female to win an Olympic medal.
And although that was a huge honor, Malis Fari told Sports Star in 2024 that it took a couple of days for anyone from India beyond her fellow weightlifters and officials to really celebrate her historic achievement. So that goes to show you what India was thinking of their women at the time. she was told that the Chef de Mission and others celebrated while they were watching other [00:11:00] events.
Nice. But it, yeah. Uh, and then she’s like, well, can I go home? And the chef admission said no. And India brought her husband over instead so that they, they could be together. They had been apart for quite some time while she was preparing in the run up to the game. So they celebrated. And then I guess there was a big celebration upon coming home as well.
As we move up to the women’s heavyweight category, there was a three weight tie for gold, so it went to body weight. Colombian, Maria Isabella iia, who had competed at Seoul. 1988 in shot, put in DCUs, walked away with a gold here, Nigerian Ruth Ug buffet won silver and quo. He hung from Chinese Taipei, one bronze 1.24 kilograms separated gold from bronze in terms of body weight.
Which is pretty incredible and also the country difference on this one was really nice. And finally we had the super heavyweight category, which was mainly a contest between Chinese lifter ding [00:12:00] Maan and Polish Lifter Agata Bel. They went back and forth setting world records with all of these lifts. And ding came out on top of a total lift of 300.0 kilograms, which was the first time a woman had lifted 300 kilograms in total.
Bronze went to American Cheryl Hayworth, who was 25 kilograms behind silver medalist. Yeah, I mean, it was really no contest. Although Cheryl said that she could have lifted more, she stuck with their game plan and lifted what she needed to lift to get on the podium to give team USA better results so that they could better recruit for following years.
Uh, Hayworth went on to compete at 2004 and 2008, but did not medal. She retired in 2010. She has a degree in historic preservation from the Savannah College of Art and Design, and was the analyst for NBC’s weightlifting coverage at Paris 2024.
Alison Brown: That’s a nice, where are you
Jill Jaracz: [00:13:00] now? Sadly, we have a not so nice.
Where are you now? From Silver medalist Agata Orbell. She has had a pretty tough life in recent years. Um, according to a Google translate of stories from jank.pl, which is a Polish sports website. She went on to win an Olympic bronze at Athens 2004 and had a host of other national European and world successes.
So she seemed to be pretty popular in Poland, but she contracted Hepatitis C in 2006. Did make a comeback in 2010, winning another national title and placing eighth at European Championships before retiring for good and retreating from public life. So, but this year she has been back in the news as she has had more health problems.
She has been suffering from depression and diabetes. She announced she’s losing her vision. And has had a lot of debt and expenses related to her health. The government has stepped in to give her a life annuity to help with these expenses. So it seems [00:14:00] like they, nobody knew what was going on until she posted something on Facebook, and then the response has been pretty overwhelmingly positive.
Another fun fact from Women’s Li weightlifting, the very first woman to lift at an Olympics was Dika Tua from Papua New Guinea. She finished 10th in her class. That was the first of five Olympics for her. She last competed at Tokyo 2020 placing ninth. And weightlifting is not known for
Alison Brown: its
Jill Jaracz: longevity.
No. No. And that’s, uh, when you think about five Olympics, I believe she missed. So there’s a. 2000 4, 8 12. She skipped Rio because I believe her sister was trying to compete there and then came back for Tokyo. Her highest finish was sixth at Athens. So pretty decent.
Alison Brown: The chu uh, of weightlifting.
Jill Jaracz: Right, right, right.
Sydney 2000 Olympics: A Men’s Weightlifting highlight
Jill Jaracz: And one quick note on men’s weightlifting, ’cause we’ll probably not get to their competition on the [00:15:00] podcast. Greek legend ROAS won his third consecutive gold medal at these games. Well, I might put a video in the show notes. Oh, you have to have to. Or at least on our website ’cause it’s, it’s beautiful.
Sydney 2000 Paralympics: Women’s Powerlifting
Jill Jaracz: So women also debuted in powerlifting at the Sydney 2000 Paralympics.
92 women competed in 10 weight classes. They had the same number of weight classes as men did. Powerlifting has an interesting history in the Paralympics. So from 1964 to 1980, it was a men’s only version of weightlifting, which was a dead bench press with a lift starting at the chest. So they laid on the bench and the lift started down at the chest and they pressed up.
In 1984, the change to power lifting, which is what we know today, where the bar starts on the rack and they have to lift the bar, bring it down to their chest and push it back up. both sports were on the program for several games, and then after Barcelona, weightlifting was removed and it was just power lifting from the non.
Sydney Paralympics [00:16:00] had more competitors in its sport than the Olympic counterpart. There was 258 to 2 46. Although the Olympics had more countries. They had 76 countries represented to the Paralympics 67. on the women’s side, competitors were ready for a show for their debut performance.
Seven World Records fell within the first two hours of competition. China and Nigeria cleaned up each winning seven medals. Egypt won four, Mexico won three. The top five Paralympic meddling powerlifters of all time, all got their start at Sydney. And when you think again you longevity, Mexico’s Amalia Perez is the top medalist with seven total medals, starting with the silver at Sydney.
Most recently a bronze at Paris 2024. Next is Fatma Omar, I believe she’s Egyptian with six medals, four golds from Sydney through London to 2012 to silvers at Rio and Tokyo. China’s Italian Fu has four golds between [00:17:00] 2020 12. Nigeria’s. Lucy Eke has six medals between 20 2020 20. And Lydia Silvia from uh, Ukraine has five medals between 2020 16.
Alison Brown: It’s so interesting that you mention Mexico because that’s not a name or, or rather not a country we hear a ton about now in either power, power lifting or weightlifting. And yet you mentioned Mexico a lot in I know. In your story.
Jill Jaracz: I know. And so they’re still hanging in there and, I hate to say that there’s not a ton about para of power lifting.
There’s not a ton about the Paralympics out there. So, I’d love to know some more of these stories behind the, the competition, but it sounds so interesting and fun and varied and the fact that these women continue to compete over and over again. It makes me think of Louise Huden and how she’s still going and is, I don’t know if, [00:18:00] we’ll, she’ll be all the way to level late 2028, but she’s at least competing for now and what you can.
Do longevity wise in this sport? Sources for me, uh, sic.pl, espn FEI Inside the Games International Paralympic Committee, Mexico News Daily, NBC, bay Area New Georgia Encyclopedia. The Oceana, uh, national Olympic Committee. Edia olympics.com. South Coast Today Sports Illustrated. Sports Star, the Times of India.
World’s para power lifting.
Sydney 2000 Olympics: Women’s Football (Soccer)
Jill Jaracz: What’s soccer got?
Alison Brown: Okay, so first, I’m so glad you said soccer. I’m probably, I’m American. I’m gonna go back and forth between football and soccer. Please don’t hate me, all you non-Americans out there. So both football tournaments, the men and the women ran from September 13th to the 28th and games were played at six different stadiums for the men, three for the women.
So. The stadiums that were used for both [00:19:00] were the Sydney Football Stadium, Bruce Stadium in Canberra, the Melbourne Cricket GA Ground, and then the three additional ones for the men were the Olympic Stadium in Sydney, the Hind Marsh Stadium in Adelaide, and a little stadium that may be familiar to you.
The Brisbane Cricket Ground, also known as the Gapa.
Jill Jaracz: Wow.
Alison Brown: So the women’s football had made its debut in Atlanta 96. So this was only its second appearance, and the US had won that, tournament and the team, including legendary players like Brandy Chastain and Mia Ham was expected to be the winner in Sydney as well.
The team had won the 99 World Cup at home in the Rose Bowl, and you may remember that famous image of Chastain ripping off her jersey and in the black sports bra kind of sliding across the ground, after she had kicked, the winning penalty goal against China. I. So this is a very, famous team. Let me just put it that way.[00:20:00]
But they were not unbeatable. captain Carla Overbeck had not fully recovered from a knee injury Golden Boot winner. Michelle Akers had retired prior to, uh, Sydney because she had suffered from chronic injuries. April Heinrichs had just taken over coaching duties in January, 2000. Only nine months before the Olympics, and as player Julie Foudy later admitted the team was tired, uh, she said Winning the World Cup quote meant a lot of media, a lot of sponsorship commitments, a lot of appearances.
I remember being a little dazed and foggy about the chaos. So if you remember that 1999 World Cup, they were everywhere. Those women.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah.
Alison Brown: You know, they were just on every talk show, every appearance, every commercial. Not the best way to be prepping for the Olympics. So the tournament itself included seven other teams divided in two [00:21:00] groups with the US was Norway, Nigeria, and China.
And in the other group was Host Australia, Sweden, Germany, and Brazil. The us, Norway, Germany, and Brazil made it out of the round Robbins into the semifinals where Germany lost to Norway and Brazil fell to the Americans.
Jill Jaracz: Okay.
Alison Brown: Okay, so now we’ve got the final US versus Norway. The US scored early, but at halftime it was evened up at one one with a little over 10 minutes left.
Norway scored again when American goalie Siri Mullinax mishandled the book the Ball, and it deflected into the net. Don’t worry. In the dying minutes of the game, Tiffany Milbrook scored a goal off her head, which is always wild to watch. Pulling the US back into a tie over time then was different than overtime is now.
They had something called golden goal, which means whoever scored first and overtime won the game overtime was in [00:22:00] a set amount of time. That was abandoned by FIFA in 2006 because of its perceived unfairness. So unfortunately, that was not the only thing that people thought was unfair with this game. Uh oh.
Norwegian Dagney mere ran into the path of a flying ball, deflecting it off her arm onto the ground where she kicked it into the net. Scoring the golden goal, the winning goal in overtime, despite American protests, that it was a handball ’cause it bounced off her arm. Referees did not blow the whistle or wave off the gold.
And what’s really funny is that interview that I had read with Julie Foudy, she still is mad about this. Wow, that it was a handball. She says it was a handball. It should have gotten waved off. So they ended up with silver Norway with the gold. The American women, as we may realize, have recovered. They won the next Olympic [00:23:00] Olympic title and most recently this summer in Paris, they’ve got a few medals in their wallet.
Norway has not won a woman’s football medal in the Olympics since Sydney.
Jill Jaracz: Wow. that is very interesting.
Sydney 2000 Olympics: Men’s Football (Soccer)
Alison Brown: So the men’s tournament was equally wild, if not more so. And as it is today, it was a U 23 tournament, meaning under 23 years of age, and they had 16 teams and they were divided into four pools.
So pool A is Italy, Nigeria, Honduras and Australia. B Chile, Spain, South Korea, and Morocco. C was the Czech Republic, Kuwait, Cameroon, and the USA men D, the USA men qualified. The USA Men qualified and we’re gonna talk more about them, and D was Slovakia, South Africa, Japan, and Powerhouse Brazil. The us, Japan, Italy, Spain, [00:24:00] Brazil, Chile, Nigeria, and Cameroon made it out of the round robin because there are 16 teams.
We’ve got quarterfinals in the men’s tournament, unlike the women’s tournament that went ring to the semis, and this was the first time the US had made it out of the group stage of Olympic men’s football. Since the two stage format was introduced in 1960, have they been out since? It’s funny you asked that.
Only in Paris 2024, the only time the US men have won a medal 1904.
Jill Jaracz: Wasn’t that like the US versus the US versus one other team or something like that? You, you know, because that was so that was. St. Louis. So there weren’t a whole lot of other countries then.
Alison Brown: Right. So we don’t really count that very much, but I’m sure the men’s team are like, yes, we have an Olympic medal in 1904.
So in the quarterfinals of [00:25:00] this tournament, Chile stunned by defeating gold, medalists from 96 Nigeria, beating them for one. Whoa. And an even bigger shock came when Cameroon defeated Brazil to one.
Jill Jaracz: Oh. So could we get another African underdog?
Alison Brown: Very likely here. So two Cameroon players in that game faced red cards.
Not a lot of red cards in in Olympic football at this time, but Jeremy ni Jap for wasting time more than once ’cause he got a yellow card for wasting time. And then he got a second yellow card for wasting time, which means a red card and Aaron de jumbo for a foul. But the surprise of the game was 16-year-old goalkeeper, Carlos Khomeni, who held his nerve in the overtime and secured the victory.
So in the semifinals, Spain steamrolled over the US three one. So the [00:26:00] US had its best finish at fourth, which they tied again in Paris.
Jill Jaracz: not bad. Not bad. Things are looking up sometimes.
Alison Brown: On the other side. In the other semifinal, the indomitable lions of Cameroon made a comeback versus Chile needing another overtime to win the match.
So the finals are now set. Goliath, Spain versus David Cameroon. Wow. Over 104,000 fans filled Olympic Stadium beating the attendance record set at the gold medal game in LA 1984. So this is now the most watched, men’s final or even Women’s Final now that you have women’s final, but the most watched football final in the Olympics.
Can you imagine 104,000 people in one place at one time?
Jill Jaracz: And can you imagine being. Like 16 years old or 18 years old, and walking into a stadium that is [00:27:00] 104,000 people,
Alison Brown: overwhelming to say the least. Spain stored, scored a quick first goal and expanded their lead late in the game to two zero I. But a kick by Cameroon star Metric.
Um, BOMA bounced off Spain’s Ivan Amaya and made it into the goal. So when you look at the records, it says that Ivan Amaya of Spain scored, scored an own goal, scored an own goal. Um, BOMA and Samuel Atoa, who were kind of the big stars of this Cameroon team, quickly joined forces couple minutes later and scored the second goal.
So now we’ve got a two two tie. At 58 minutes we’re going into overtime, nobody scores. Ah, so now we’ve got an old school penalty shootout for the first four shots spanning Cameroon traded goals. Then on the fifth shot. Poor Ivan Amaya missed. Oh no, what a day to have a bad game. [00:28:00] And Ni Japped, Jeremy made his shot.
Cameroon wins. It was the first gold medal for Cameroon at the Olympics in any sport.
Jill Jaracz: Wow. Can you imagine what the country must have been like that day?
Alison Brown: They’ve only won two gold since in oh four and oh eight in athletics. Wow. And they had only won two medals prior to this, a silver and a bronze. Wow. So this is like when we were talking about Kirsty Coventry, how the whole country has eight medals and she has seven.
It was that kind of, feeling for Cameroon man in front of that
Jill Jaracz: crowd. Oh wow. So cool.
Alison Brown: Many of these players went on to have very successful professional careers. I didn’t find any sad stories good from these Cameroon players, so I was very relieved. But this was, this was my favorite little bit that I came across.
Years [00:29:00] later in 2020, Stryker, Patrick Sofo did an interview with ESPN on the 20th anniversary, and he had said, quote, we hadn’t necessarily gone to Sydney to win. We’d gone for an adventure.
Jill Jaracz: Oh
Alison Brown: yeah. And what an adventure these kids had. I mean, the oldest was all of 21, 22. So what a joy to watch that ending because they all held their nerve, especially that goalie six.
Can you imagine? Carlos Khomeini was 16 in a penalty shootout in the Olympic gold medal match, and he hung in there and he made that one save against Amaya. That was everything. Wow. Wow. That is a good story to end on. Woo. What are your sources? Oh, sources. Sources. I’ve got ESPN, Tampa Bay Times olympics.com, fifa, Paramatta, history and Heritage, sporting News, LA Times, and [00:30:00] Transfer Market.
Excellent.
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In case you missed it, we are hearing from Samantha Schultz because, she’s dealing with an eating disorder. And, uh, this will be part of our mental health series that we are also [00:31:00] doing in May. So please look forward to that.
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