We’ve hit the point where we have no idea what day or date it is, but we know we’re in Milano and that there’s an Olympics going on, and that’s all that really matters. More members of Team Keep the Flame Alive competed today, and we’ve got their results and all of the other action that took place at Milano Cortina 2026.
We had a big cultural day, hitting up Casa Brasil, the Brazilian hospitality house. Jill went to a press panel on the current state of the Italian fashion and design industries (which also threw some shade at Paris 2024). Then we both went to an On Location LA 2028-themed cocktail party that had Italian versions of American burgers, fries, hot dogs and other finger foods. Apparently they think we really like salt.
But there was great competition today. We’ve got results for:
- Alpine skiing
- Biathlon
- Curling
- Figure skating
- Freestyle skiing
- Ice hockey
- Luge
- Nordic combined
- Snowboard
- Speed skating
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Milano Cortina 2026 Olympics – Day 5
Jill Jaracz: [00:00:00] And welcome to Keep the Flame Alive. Day five, coverage of the Milano Corina 2026 Winter Olympic Games. I am your host, Jill Jaracz, coming to you from Shuk Stan House. Joined as always by my lovely co-host, Alison Brown. Alison Chow, Sai.
Alison Brown: Well, I do know it’s day five. I do know that it is Wednesday, so I feel like I am ahead of the game today.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right, because I don’t know that it’s Wednesday. I don’t really know that it’s February [00:01:00] 11th or day five. It feels like we’re on almost done. To me. I don’t know. I guess it’s ’cause I was here so long ahead of time, but it, it’s been a whirlwind in my mind.
Alison Brown: That’s okay. We’ve kind of worked our way into a rhythm, I think, a little bit.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm. We’re
Alison Brown: getting
Jill Jaracz: there.
Alison Brown: So we’re getting there. So maybe by day 16 we’ll know what the heck we’re doing.
Jill Jaracz: It’s, it’s our warmup for the Paralympics, so if you want really good shows, listeners, listen to the Paralympics.
Alison Brown: We’ll be ready by then.
What did we forget to tell you yesterday?
Jill Jaracz: That’s right. Alright, onto our new favorite topic of discussion.
What did we forget to tell you yesterday?
Alison Brown: Do you wanna go first or should I go first?
Jill Jaracz: Well, I forgot to tell everybody how I got to and from the hockey venue,
Alison Brown: including forgetting to tell me, because I have to go to the hockey venue and I would like to hear this story.
Jill Jaracz: Okay. So I was going from the ice skating arena.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Which is down in Agio Ro, [00:02:00] not Ro. It’s a Milan fii. No, that’s not it either. It’s a Oh Milano forum. That’s what it is. And, uh, you could take the green line all the way back into the city and then transfer over to whatever line goes to the new arena, uh, Santa Juliana. And, uh. Instead, I got off the green line pretty early, pretty quickly because you can take an S train, which is like a regional commuter rail.
You take commuter rail across to the end station where you would get out at hockey. But where did you get your ticket for this? It is, it is your, your regular QR code.
Alison Brown: Okay.
Jill Jaracz: That also works because I, I spent a lot of time standing outside the station going, how do IU what do I do? What do I do? And I finally dug into the, the terms and conditions.
Alison Brown: Oh.
Jill Jaracz: And that Thank you. Told you how, how that worked. So [00:03:00] cool, cool, cool. And then when I got to the hockey arena.
I couldn’t figure out where to go ’cause okay, there was, well wait, there might have been signs on the ground that said, go this way. And then there’s kind of like a holding. Two big signs on like cement things and a couple of cops and a couple of volunteers. Well, not, not, no, it was like train volunteers.
Alison Brown: Okay.
Jill Jaracz: Train people. And they said, okay, you gotta go to platform eight and go down and you’ll find the shuttle buses. Okay. And the one cop was very nice. He almost took me there. I said, well, let me try and if you see me again, you know, I couldn’t find it. So I, I wander downstairs. ’cause you basically, I think, have to go under train tracks or under, underneath the thing.
Alison Brown: Okay.
Jill Jaracz: Go all the way through the area and it’s pretty well marked.
Alison Brown: Okay.
Jill Jaracz: Pretty well marked because I think you [00:04:00] have to take a right, like, it’s like a, you get down to the platform you took, you get down downstairs and you take a right and you take like an immediate left and then you go all the way through.
And you’ll see platform eight and there may be signs, I can’t remember. And you go up and you’re at ground level and you’re in kind of a little plaza and you’re in the right place when you see tanks and cop cars. Tanks, yes Cop cars and the Eli Lilly light up pictograms. Those are the three things you need to look for.
Why
Alison Brown: are there tanks?
Jill Jaracz: I don’t know. I don’t know. But there are tanks. I. That’s what’s on guard. And then you’ll see the line of shuttle buses.
Alison Brown: Okay,
Jill Jaracz: so this,
Alison Brown: this doesn’t sound easy.
Jill Jaracz: It it’s not because you take the shuttle buses and you get off the shuttle buses and the arena is [00:05:00] still way over there.
Alison Brown: Oh no.
Jill Jaracz: So you just start walking. And you walk and walk and you eventually get there. The media center is somewhat marked. Well,
Alison Brown: well, I don’t, I’m not gonna worry about the venue media center.
Jill Jaracz: I mean Well, that’s how you get to the, the press.
Alison Brown: Oh, no,
Jill Jaracz: it’s, you have to
Alison Brown: walk through it.
Jill Jaracz: Take the Buon. Yeah. But, but basically like you’ll, if you go upstairs and see the plaza and the rings, you did the wrong thing.
Just go back down to, to where you were and keep going straight. Okay. And you’ll find signs. I, that’s what I did and eventually I got there.
Alison Brown: I think maybe I’ll go to speed skating tomorrow.
Jill Jaracz: No, you got the new arena is really cool. Mm. It’s really nice. They got an organ, man. They’re bringing, you have to tell me if they play, welcome back Coter again.
Alison Brown: Depending how early I get there, because it sounds like it’s gonna take me a while.
Jill Jaracz: Right? So it, it does, but it’s worth it. There is an elevator from. The venue media center in the [00:06:00] basement to the press seating on level C, which you might want. Tim told me about that because I was doing stairs as I want to do, but there are like five sets of stairs between B and C or something like that.
It’s insanely long. You think I’m never gonna get there because you might not. And you sit, you enjoy, you have a table seat, hopefully. And then, um, at the end, Tim and I went to the mixed zone and we talked to some skaters and uh, hopefully I will have that tape at some point. Dunno, but we talked, I talked to Rory again.
Excellent. She was, she was pleased and. A few other skaters players who were in the mix there, and we must have been in the mix zone for 10 minutes or so, 10, 15 minutes. And we thought that was a great way to spend time, kill time while the 12,000 people dispersed [00:07:00] because those 12,000 people have to get back on shuttle buses to go back to the train.
Alison Brown: Okay, that sounds like a really bad idea.
Jill Jaracz: And we get out there and it’s raining at this point and it’s still a mob scene, and we hear it. You can walk it if you want to. It’s 20 minutes. Walk to the train station and if you wanna walk, go to the right of the barricades and if you want to be on the buses, go to the left.
And there was still a mob for walking because it wasn’t moving. Because the volunteers would have signs that stopped. You stopped everyone when buses were coming through when we got to the front of the line. And of course the line for walking, the mob for walking is shorter than the mob for the shuttle buses.
And I do feel very bad about this. Once we got to the front, everything converged, [00:08:00] and I didn’t know where to even go to walk. And we just got in the shuttle bus line. And hopped on shuttle. I mean, we did cut the line, but there was no stop in it really. It just was a, a mob. And I think this was the first day true for having fans.
So there’s a lot of stuff to wrinkle to, a lot of wrinkles to work out. But we got on the shuttle bus and the shuttle buses were like, pronto.
Alison Brown: Oh,
Jill Jaracz: that’s good. Lots, lots of them. And they were right there. And, um. That was not bad. Okay. Then. Then they dropped us back off at the tanks and we had to walk for a few minutes to get to the train station
Alison Brown: and also figure out what train you were gonna get on at that point.
Jill Jaracz: Yes,
Alison Brown: exactly. ’cause then you didn’t get back on the S train. You got back on,
Jill Jaracz: I got back on a metro.
Alison Brown: A metro.
Jill Jaracz: And it was weird because like the, the travel app wants to tell you what the first thing to come is.
Alison Brown: Right.
Jill Jaracz: And sometimes it’s a regional train and do you want to [00:09:00] navigate a regional train when it’s.
What did I, when did I text you? Like 1137
Alison Brown: at least.
Jill Jaracz: And I told you I might never get back. Yes, and that was when I was in the mob. I will tell you, when I got on the bus, I was just surprised and I, it was back in an hour. That was the amazing thing. I was, I went from despair to, is it really only been an hour and I’m getting off the train, walking home.
This is awesome. So not bad. But it is a little chaotic and you have to be just a little prepared to walk a little ways. Okay. And sometimes a long way, but you don’t when, like when you get off the shuttle bus to go into the venue. The walk is very long. There is an exit when you get out of the media center that is, it’s right there.
It just says straight. Just keep going straight. Well, you cut out that huge long walk. The long walk is shorter.
Alison Brown: I think I’m gonna go to speed skating tomorrow.
Jill Jaracz: Don’t challenge yourself. [00:10:00] We’re at the Olympics for crying out loud, faster, higher, stronger, more difficult transport. That’s what that communist is, right?
Alison Brown: No, it’s together and I’m being thrown to the wolves on my own here.
Jill Jaracz: Well, you’ll be together with a lot of people
Alison Brown: that That is true.
Jill Jaracz: There you go. There you go. That’s what I’ve got. Oh, the other thing. That was great. Was as we are walking through the train station back, two cops checking passports and IDs
Alison Brown: just randomly,
Jill Jaracz: randomly, and.
Tim did not have his with him, and they were not pleased. But I had mine and he’s, Tim is phenomenal. I’ll say this. He can, he talked his way out. They didn’t, you know, he explained like, I didn’t know I was supposed to have my passport. Why? You know, we didn’t understand that we were gonna get randomly checked in different places, but it was really bizarre.
Alison Brown: Yeah. That, [00:11:00] that has not happened to us before
Jill Jaracz: and held about the movement.
But very cool. Running into people at hockey. Ran into Ken Hanscomb, finally got to meet him in person after talking to him all these years.
Alison Brown: That’s the funny thing. ’cause we also got to see him tonight. Mm-hmm. At, at, at the event that we were at. And I, now that you just said that, just realized we have never met him in person before.
Jill Jaracz: Exactly. And uh, that’s been great. Ran into listener Matt, on the train. Ran into a Pam from Olympian on the train. Oh, which, which, you know, that’s one of those magical Olympic moments when you’re in a foreign city and you run into people that you know and that that was fantastic. So it was great to see her.
Great to see Matt. Big Olympic vibes.
Alison Brown: Okay. Big Olympic transportation headaches, though,
Jill Jaracz: you know, it wasn’t so bad. It was just that confusion of. First time doing something, what do I do? And you do go, oh my gosh, the walk is long. And I think I have [00:12:00] pictures illustrating this, but I did not take video because I’m having a storage problem already.
We’re in day five and I’m having photo storage problems. And uh, you just kind of put one foot in front of the other and you make it there eventually. And hope for the best. Right. Right. The other thing I forgot to say was at Short Trek speed skating, the medal ceremony, and this, I noticed it again for ice dance.
They brought in carpets for the ice so that nobody has to walk on, uh, they can don’t have to have their skates on. They can have regular shoes.
Alison Brown: Do it without sandpaper.
Jill Jaracz: Right. Oh my gosh. When I saw those carpets come on, I was like, oh, we gotta talking to.
Alison Brown: We learned our lesson,
Jill Jaracz: right? What did you forget to tell us yesterday?
Alison Brown: I got hit in the face by a bird.
Jill Jaracz: What you got hit in the face? Where
Alison Brown: I was walking?
Where did I go yesterday?
Jill Jaracz: Well, we forgotten that already.
Alison Brown: We [00:13:00] forgot that already. I think I was in the plaza with, uh, women’s hockey, or was I at speed skating? Either way in that. You
Jill Jaracz: were at roe?
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Okay.
Alison Brown: I was at Roe and I was just walking along innocently and these pigeons were in front of me and they didn’t like me walking by them, so one took off, but misjudged where my head was, smacked me right in the face.
Jill Jaracz: How did you not come home and immediately take a shower?
Alison Brown: Well, because he sort of just like bounced off my head.
He didn’t poop on me or anything. He just.
Jill Jaracz: With his dirty feathers. You know, I kind of came out like
Alison Brown: with, with the crooked glasses.
Jill Jaracz: Ben, start the bird flu. Watch. Start it now. Producer Ben.
Alison Brown: Yeah, for a moment, my [00:14:00] glasses got a little crooked and I was a little confused, but I, I, I don’t have a bruise or anything. I was kind, surprised. Which is why I forgot about it.
Jill Jaracz: Well, let’s see if other birds attack you.
Alison Brown: I didn’t do anything to this bird. That was the thing. I wasn’t shooing at it. I wasn’t harassing it like the children do, walking.
Blanc,
What officiating or volunteer job would we like to do?
Jill Jaracz: what officiating a volunteer job would you like to do?
Alison Brown: I am the elevator operator at Ski Jump.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, that would be fun.
Alison Brown: Because that’s the last real person you get to talk to. That’s not an official. Mm-hmm. That’s not, that’s not all mean and stuff, so I say officials
Jill Jaracz: can be nice.
Alison Brown: Officials are always serious with their clipboards and their clocks.
Jill Jaracz: Hmm. [00:15:00] It screw his business. Well, I was watching some Alpine today on the screen, and there is some kind of flag repair, so if they run into a gate, well, I called it flag repair, but I guess it’s gate repair. And to put this on, I saw a, I don’t think he used it, but I thought he. He brought this tool out just in case, which is a gigantic drill.
Alison Brown: Well, in case he needed it. Yeah. He didn’t want it to be caught drill free.
Jill Jaracz: Right.
Alison Brown: If he required a drill
Jill Jaracz: and there looked to be a level also.
Alison Brown: Oh, well, I, I don’t doubt it,
Jill Jaracz: but no tool belt that I noticed. We’ll see. That’s
Alison Brown: disappointing. We, maybe it was under his coat.
Jill Jaracz: That could be,
Alison Brown: but maybe the bird knocked off.
Cultural moments: Casa Brasil
Jill Jaracz: Alright. We had a lot of cultural moments today. Today was a big day for culture and then watching on screens because we had a lot of other stuff on the agenda today.
Alison Brown: [00:16:00] Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Um, we went to Casa Brazil.
Alison Brown: Very Brazilian.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. Which is nice. They have a very small delegation, but it’s interesting that they have a house here.
Alison Brown: I guess they chose to. Use the opportunity to promote their business and tourism.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm. And they had, um. A restaurant area. They had a DJ area not going, when we went, they had air hockey tables.
Alison Brown: They had a ski simulator that we both tried
Jill Jaracz: and I failed miserably by the end. Took something too wide and then just crashed every gate down After that,
Alison Brown: that’s what happens.
Jill Jaracz: And uh, they had some kind of like, you could get a hat or a shirt or something and get a patch.
Alison Brown: Put on
Jill Jaracz: there. So small Pickens, but not bad loungy area. It was a good place for friends and family to hang in. I bet it’s It’s pretty hopping at night once the music starts. Oh, and they had a bar.
Alison Brown: They did have a bar and they did offer a cocktail that you warned me never to get.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. [00:17:00] Kyia.
Alison Brown: And they also had the television playing with Portuguese.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, okay. That’s good. That’s good.
The state of Italian fashion and culture
this morning I went to a design press conference at the Yes, Milano City Media Center, and it was supposed to start at 11. I slept in slightly and figured and, and left the house at like 10 to 11, and it’s like a 30 minute. Journey there.
Alison Brown: Figured you’d catch what you catch.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, I would catch what I catch and I got there.
1120 ish, and it hadn’t started yet. So, and I sat around for a few minutes and eventually it started. But it was really interesting. They, uh, did a little panel with Carlo Capa, the president of , the nonprofit that does fashion week basically, and then. Uh, Maria Poot, who is the president of the Salona Mobile, [00:18:00] mul Mobile de Milano, which is a giant furniture trade show, so he was fashion, she was designed, but they both do kind of organizational work that is promoting the industry and helping the industry out.
Trade, trade association type stuff. So a little bit about the furniture market In Italy, they export 52% of what they make and. The
Alison Brown: with real Corinthian leather.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. But the interesting thing is that both of them talked about how geography and the cha, the changing geographies and, uh, world events that are affecting their industries in particular.
So, um, Europe is stable, but it’s shrinking, especially in the high end stuff, which is. What both of them tend to produce, uh, tariffs and uncertainty in the US and for the furniture industry. Italy’s invested a [00:19:00] lot in US facing initiatives, so hopefully that will pay out in fashion. They said tariffs aren’t the problem.
The devaluation of the dollar is the problem because they could eat the tariff, but they can’t eat the
Alison Brown: The
Jill Jaracz: currency. Yeah. They can’t eat the currency. So that was an interesting thing. Um, in China and Shanghai particularly the real estate crisis has been because
Alison Brown: people don’t have money for other
Jill Jaracz: things.
Yes. Especially luxury fashion. Uh, Riyadh market is still increasing for furniture. Dubai is interesting for fashion. The Middle East is pretty turbulent and, uh, also for fashion. Russian used to be a good market for them, not anymore, which is, uh, that’s, that’s probably really hurting them. And, um, four. They also both said that India has promise, especially [00:20:00] Mumbai and New Delhi in fashion, Mexico and South America are also.
Prime markets for potential growth. So that was really ing interesting. Um, they do four fashion weeks a year, two women’s, two men’s. The women’s bring in $500 million a year at or euros a year, and the men’s bring in 400 million a year. And so both of them talked about how. Especially in the fashion. I think with both Armani and Valentino passing away within the last few months, they’re really looking at the new generation and trying to bring them up and saying, you know, we’ve gotta, uh, make space for them.
We’ve gotta encourage them and find ways to help them grow. So that, that was interesting that they both understood how aesthetics change with different age groups and we’re gonna bring that up. Um. There was a lot of shade thrown towards France and Paris. [00:21:00] It was awesome, as you would expect. Oh my gosh.
For the fashion bit. Uh, he said that, well, France and Paris, the fashion, they, they’re very creative, but, uh, Italy has the industry as well, so it was more like. In the seventies, they figured out how to really build the fashion industry and And
Alison Brown: actually make the stuff.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And France has just always been concerned about the creative side.
So the, the, that was some shade thrown. They talked about, somebody asked about the Olympic impact and things like that, and they said that both of ’em thought the Olympics were really, the Olympic values were reflected in their industries because of, you know, you feel the same athlete pressure kind of thing to perform Fashion week, which happens the week between the Olympics and Paralympics, which
Alison Brown: is insane.
Jill Jaracz: Uh, and that’s like 200 events in Fashion Week. [00:22:00] Uh, that’s gonna have a, an Olympic theme this year. Um, and Marco, uh, BOE who did the opening ceremony, she’s also designing an award show at Lass SC and Maria, uh, Poro, who was our furniture person, uh, she said that she had worked with Marco and said, quote. I know his attention to detail very well.
Alison Brown: In other words, he is a nightmare to work for because he pays attention to every little paperclip.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. But that also trains you to be very good at what you do because Marco is very good at what he does.
Alison Brown: Yes, he
Jill Jaracz: is. And, and some more shade towards Paris, uh, particularly Paris 2024. You know, they, they both said, you know, it was very emotional having the moment.
In the stadium with the athletes parade here in Milano, where the athletes were together with the people and you missed that in Paris because the athletes were on boats and they kind of went past you. [00:23:00] So they were not thrilled about that. Um, they did say that the ceremonies were a little diffused, but it made it possible to have that feeling that we missed from.
Other ceremonies
Alison Brown: that happened to be on Rivers.
Jill Jaracz: Exactly. But one of the things that Maria said, and it was funny ’cause I was actually thinking about this on my way to the event, was the fact that Milan is a kind of, it’s not a funky city, it’s a, it’s very. She said subdued. And I would say, and I had a word earlier, I got something, uh, that I’ll tell you tomorrow what I forgot to say today.
Alison Brown: I have found Milan to be a very practical place.
Jill Jaracz: Mm mm-hmm.
Alison Brown: People are very practical.
Jill Jaracz: Mm.
Alison Brown: Spaces are functional.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And, but, but what she, she was talking about the fact, and I, I like this too. Like you could. Everything [00:24:00] looks normal, but you could turn a corner and find something beautiful.
Alison Brown: Mm,
Jill Jaracz: like a lovely designed window or door, which I had been enthralled with.
Uh, just something little and different, and I, and it’s, you know, it doesn’t have the same. History and grandeur of Rome or maybe Florence or Venice and some of the other cities. But there are a lot of surprises in Milan and I think that, you know, people overlook that. So it’s not one of those places where I would say like, oh my gosh, tourist destination.
But I really like being here.
Alison Brown: It’s a nice city. It feels very comfortable and, and mm-hmm. Functional in a way, and not saying there’s not weird things that we see.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, yeah, yeah,
Alison Brown: yeah. All the time. I
Jill Jaracz: mean, it’s a city.
Alison Brown: It’s a city and it’s European and things are different than what we’re used to, but there’s something just very everyday workable about Milan.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm.
Alison Brown: Which I like.
Jill Jaracz: Right. And then there’s [00:25:00] just a little possess thrown in here and there.
Alison Brown: Yeah.
Jill Jaracz: And I, you know,
Alison Brown: usually with cheese,
We’re invited to cocktails
Jill Jaracz: I’ll take it. Um, then we went, tonight, we got invited to an on location. LA 2028 Hospitality Party,
Alison Brown: which was interesting and weird because of course it was an LA themed party trying to make you feel like you’re an LA theme.
And we kept saying that the food was almost like what Italians imagine LA food to be. They had little mini hamburgers and chicken nuggets and, and different street food, but it all was just a little. Odd.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. The burgers weren’t very beefy. Right. And the fries were more like, um, potato skins. Well, they were more like, they, they cut really thick potato chips almost.
Um, and, and the chicken nuggets were not super bready. [00:26:00] But oh my gosh, the salt. And I realize I now live in a low salt household, but the salt on this about
Alison Brown: I couldn’t get my ring off when we came home. I have little sausage fingers. My little fat American fingers could not handle that.
Jill Jaracz: It was so salty, and I can’t even imagine.
They had a hot dog station and they called the, the menu said mini hotdog, and they were regular size. So I don’t know what a maxi hotdog looks like here.
Alison Brown: I guess it was in an American’s eye. They thought that would be a mini hotdog. Right,
Jill Jaracz: right, right.
Alison Brown: Because everything is bigger in the
Jill Jaracz: US. Mm-hmm. So it was nice and they spoke a little bit about, uh, the hospitality and LA is gonna be very, very good.
It’s the biggest games ever. And so they are ready for it and are excited to announce different things, which we’ll find out in short order, I’m sure. But [00:27:00] we also saw the, I mean, it was loud.
Alison Brown: It was very loud. It was very hard to talk to people.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, so that was, that made it
Alison Brown: difficult to
Jill Jaracz: mix some
Alison Brown: mingle because they had the hottest key guitar player.
Jill Jaracz: They had a, they had a little DJ duo with a DJ and a guy holding a key guitar, and I don’t think he ever played it.
Alison Brown: He did not,
Jill Jaracz: but I guess that’s Italy.
Alison Brown: He just holds and shows the qar and makes faces at people. Yeah. Hey, I’m your QAR guy.
Jill Jaracz: So I, I took a little video of the scene and uh, hopefully I can get that out as well.
Alison Brown: We did have some love, lovely la themed cocktails.
Jill Jaracz: We did, we did different.
Alison Brown: Hey, I got your Keita right here.
Jill Jaracz: That’s not LA themed.
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Results – Alpine skiing
Alright, we have results. First up, uh, alpine skiing. The men’s Super G happened, which I watched on screen,
Alison Brown: as [00:29:00] did I.
Jill Jaracz: Um, I would love to see this in person because as you mentioned the other night, just. Form is an, um, dead course, and hill is massive. I don’t know how they stay down that long. I,
Alison Brown: I don’t know how they stay on at all. And in fact, somebody skied.
Jill Jaracz: I just thought about that.
Alison Brown: Somebody skied did not stay on for no reason.
Jill Jaracz: And that was Dominic Paris, his ski un unclipped mid run.
Alison Brown: Yeah. Apparently it had to do with the, the heavy bumps and chattering that he was taking, that the, the impact. Replicated enough of a crash. So the ski just went flying off. ’cause you don’t want your binding to be too tight ’cause you want it to come off in a crash,
Jill Jaracz: which is a real bummer that that’s how you go out.
Alison Brown: Yeah.
Jill Jaracz: But that is what happened.
Alison Brown: Wardrobe malfunction.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. [00:30:00] Gold went to Switzerland’s Fran Van Alman, who is who is quickly becoming the star of men’s Alpine. Silver went to Ryan Cochran Siegel from the US who was bib number three. That time lasted. That was pretty good. He hung in there. He was first for a little while, and then after Von Alman, he went down and it was just like pins and needles waiting to see if he would be on the podium, and he did.
And bronze went to Marco Dermo from Switzerland.
Alison Brown: So Von Alman, as you were saying, is the star. He has now got three gold medals from this games. He is the first skier since 1960, first alpine male skier since 1968 to win three gold medals in the same games. Wow. And that was one little skier called Junk La Kely.
Jill Jaracz: Wow. I met Switzerland’s going crazy.
Alison Brown: Yeah, because when we talked to Tom, Tom Kelly, it was gonna be Marco Artemat. Right. And nobody else. And yet that’s not, that’s why we run the races, [00:31:00]
Jill Jaracz: right?
Alison Brown: But Dermot’s not without jewelry, he’s gotten two bronzes.
Jill Jaracz: Very nice. And, and Cochrane Siegel is a repeat silver medalist for this event.
So, uh, great day on the hill
Results – Biathlon
in Biathlon, the women had the 15 K individual race. Uh, gold went to Yulia Simone from France. Uh, silver went to luau from France and bronze went to Laura SVA from Bulgaria. And if you are asking, who is Laura, his sva, you would be much like the German team in the locker room going, who is this person?
And they race against her. They did not know who she was because she is ranked 73rd on the World Cup circuit. And that just blew my mind. And I have only, I’ve seen her on TV go and every time I’ve seen her this season, I’ve gone, oh, Bulgaria’s got some biathletes. Okay. Um, but this has just been a, a magical thing [00:32:00] for, uh, I mean, obviously it’s the best race she’s ever done.
Alison Brown: You know, it’s something that Deidre Irwin talked to us about where it’s on any given day, anyone on the circuit can have that good day. They’re all that good and they’re all that close together that if you’ve got a good shooting day and a bad shooting day, you can really. Move. Mm-hmm. Way up and down the scale.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. And her, her skiing fit in together as well. Um, she said, uh, she remembered, uh, an interview with Dorothea Veer where she said, where Veer said that her medal from the Olympics came when she was without expectations and was really calm. So, uh, SVA like channeled that and managed to do the same.
Alison Brown: And, and beat fear while she was at it.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I know. That’s really, it’s wild. And I watched a little bit of the press conference and it was, it was questions for, for Esto obviously, because everyone’s like, who is this person? And then the, the moderator goes, okay, can we have a question [00:33:00] for Lu Jean Mano? And she gives the, our, the microphone to another reporter.
He goes, I have a question for Laura. Eventually, eventually Jean Manino and Simone got to answer some questions as well, moving, oh, and then our Deidre Erwin finished 34th. She had th three penalties on the day, so it was a tough shooting day for her as well. But, um, got more races.
Alison Brown: She’s not done.
Jill Jaracz: Not done yet.
Results – Curling
Curling. The men’s round Robin started today, uh, Italy. Beat Sw, Sweden, seven to six and Italy has one of their team members. Uh, Joel Re Tornai is returning. He,
Alison Brown: he is Ray to,
Jill Jaracz: that’s right. He competed at Torino 2006 and a couple of other games in between, but
Alison Brown: he’s like the Ariana Fontana of girling. Just keeps going.
Jill Jaracz: , Canada beat Germany, seven six USA beat, chea eight seven, and Great [00:34:00] Britain beat China nine four. This was a good day to be in the curling center.
Alison Brown: Yeah. Lots of close games.
Results – Figure skating
Jill Jaracz: Figure skating.
Alison Brown: I don’t wanna talk about it, but I know we have to.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, we had the ice dance, free dance. Uh, the ice dance had the free dance. We got our medalists. Gold went to, uh, Laurent for Forer Bore and Guillaume Scissone from France. Silver went to Madison Cha and Evan Bates from the USA and Bronze went to Piper Giles and
Alison Brown: Piper Gillis.
Jill Jaracz: , Bronze. Went to Piper Gillis and Paul Poirier from Canada,
Alison Brown: which I am thrilled about.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah,
Alison Brown: they, first of all, I love them as a pair. They’re very quirky. They’ve always kind of done their own thing. They trained separate from any of the big, uh, dance centers, and they brought back a program that they had done a few years ago, uh, based on Vincent Van Gogh and Starry Night.
Jill Jaracz: Oh.
Alison Brown: And they reworked it a little bit, [00:35:00] made it more difficult actually, than the original program. And the performance of it tonight was just magical and. Tear inspiring. And I think even they looked surprised at how special a moment they created
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And, and just tears on the ice. It was very lovely. They got a seasons best, which is good.
We saw a lot of seasons best and what we saw and, and that always makes me happy when you see the competitors doing the best that they can do.
Alison Brown: Right.
Jill Jaracz: That’s nice because Poor Lila Fear and Gibson
Alison Brown: Lewis Gibson
Jill Jaracz: Lewison. Thank you. Um. If there was a bobble,
Alison Brown: she bobbled her twizzle. They ended up 12th in the free dance and seventh overall, which for them, they were in the hunt for the this bronze medal, and in fact, we’re the bronze medalist at last year’s world championship.
So it really does change on a dime,
Jill Jaracz: less than a point for each segment, [00:36:00] separated gold and silver. And that was a bummer. I mean, chalk and Bates obviously really wanted the gold.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Madison Chalk had a new version of her Matador skirt, which was red on the outside. Red ombre type thing. On the outside.
Alison Brown: Yes,
Jill Jaracz: which was quite nice.
Worked very well. I, I was thinking, I, I like their program better and I don’t know if it’s because it has fast music and it’s really rhythmic and, uh, driving.
Alison Brown: I think it also works better because it doesn’t have a single tempo. It is fast at driving, but there are sections that slow down. Mm-hmm. And then sections of different intensity, whereas, um, forer and cone, it’s much more one note.
Jill Jaracz: Yes.
Alison Brown: Uh, in, in terms of tone and intensity and, and spirit, which some people prefer that simplicity to it. [00:37:00] Yeah. Not that what they do is simple,
Jill Jaracz: right?
Alison Brown: I am not a fan,
Jill Jaracz: I was not thrilled about the program either. Maybe it’s more moving in person, because we talked about this, we, I noticed when I saw the team event and the, the free dance was in that.
TV does not do justice to how fast chalk and Bates move, especially in that one turn sequence kind of near the beginning where he’s got her kind of wrapped around his head somehow. It’s a rotational
Alison Brown: lift.
Jill Jaracz: Okay? You call, you call it a rotational lift. I call it wrap your legs around his head. And there he’s just going gangbuster spin and spin and spinning.
And it is so incredibly fast. I don’t know how they can move that fast.
Alison Brown: And I, and when you think about it, I don’t know how she hangs on.
Jill Jaracz: That I think
Alison Brown: she’s not
Jill Jaracz: gravity or, you know, spinning, it’s physics,
Alison Brown: it’s atypical, but you know, in one sense she’s [00:38:00] doing do the chenko and go flying off into the stands
Jill Jaracz: and I, I just didn’t see that same.
Kind of innovation. Maybe it, like you said, their program was simple. Not, it was very difficult, obviously, but it, it just didn’t Artistically
Alison Brown: simplistic.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. It doesn’t have a real wow factor to me. But maybe like you say, maybe some judges are like, Hey, I really like this simple. Back to basics, beautiful historical ice dance type stuff, but Guillaume Cerone now two time gold medalist
Alison Brown: and Disney villain.
Jill Jaracz: Right, and Barbara Scioli had a good reaction in the box.
Alison Brown: She was happy with, uh, grard and Fey who ended up fourth, and they seemed to be quite happy. They also got a season’s best, which again, you can’t do better than you’ve done all season. That that’s what you want. You want your best performance to be at the Olympics.[00:39:00]
Results – Freestyle skiing
Jill Jaracz: Uh, moving over to freestyle skiing. We had women’s moguls today, which we saw part of on screen, which was nice. Um, gold went to Elizabeth Lemley from the USA Silver. Went to Jalen Kauf from USA, who we featured a little bit on the show. And bronze went to Prine Lafa from France. And uh, this was something, I mean.
It was fun listening to the commentators Keep calling Jaylen Jay, but I guess maybe that’s her nickname because I saw Jay signs in the audience.
Alison Brown: Let’s go with that.
Jill Jaracz: Okay.
Alison Brown: It’s like, Hey, Jay.
Jill Jaracz: Right.
Alison Brown: Go bust your knees out on that moguls course.
Jill Jaracz: But they all looked, you know, I, I think Lemley was really a little bit shocked to, to win.
Alison Brown: Well, she had pulled up. She was not in the lead until that last run.
Jill Jaracz: Mm. Wow. Defending champion. Ja Anthony finished eighth and she was leading until the final run. She just had a tough one. And then [00:40:00] Olivia Jacko finished ninth. Who’s Olivia Jacko?
Alison Brown: She was uh, in
Jill Jaracz: Oh,
Alison Brown: thank you. Yes, she was in the top three yesterday.
She’s the other US uh, skier.
Results – Ice hockey
Jill Jaracz: Okay. Ice Hockey men got underway tonight and we started with Group B, Sweden B Italy five two, and Slovakia B Finland, four three.
Results – Luge
in luge. We had the women’s doubles today. Gold went to Andrea Voer and uh, Marianne Oberer from Italy.
Silver went to Germany’s, Deanna Eiberg and Magdalena m Matina and Bronze went to Selena Gel and Laura McKayla Kipp from Austria. So first time for the women’s doubles,
Alison Brown: and it was quite impressive. It was a good race. Not, you know, people weren’t crashing everywhere. It wasn’t uterus flying all over the sliding track.
Goodness. All those things were, you know, the way they should be. [00:41:00] Our own Chevon Forgan and Sophia Kirkby finished fifth and a lot of guys have been flying into Sophia’s dms, which is good ’cause that’s what she was looking for. She came to the village looking for love.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And I guess her socials have been very funny.
About that.
Alison Brown: They have been. And, and there was a, a snowboarder who made a comment about not having a date for the 14th, and she responded with, you know, you do now, and I’m, I’m putting it in the book. I’m not afraid to make the first move So good on Sophia for even in this very, you know, uh, pressure cooker atmosphere, trying to have a little fun with it.
Yes. And maybe finding a little love while she’s at it. Why not
Jill Jaracz: go Sophia? Uh, men’s doubles went today as well, so it was a sweep for Italy in the doubles luge Emmanuel Reer and a Simon Felner from Italy, one Gold, uh, Thomas Do and Han Kindle from Austria. One Silver and Tobias Vendel. [00:42:00] And Tobias Arnold from Germany won bronze.
They would’ve, if they had won, they would’ve had a four feet, and that’s a very, very rare thing to do.
Alison Brown: I mean, just the fact that they had. Four medals in this event. Mm-hmm. Uh, you know, they’ve had the three gold and now the bronze is amazing and they have announced they are done, which I say, you know, good thing, you know, give, give some for the other people.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. And, uh, the Italian team of reader and Ks, they have not won a race on the World Cup circuit. So again, we’re finding these people who are on the World Cup not known to be. Strong. I, I don’t like to use that word because of course they’re on the World Cup circuit. They have to be strong, but they’re, they’re, they’re
Alison Brown: finding their mojo at the right moment.
Jill Jaracz: I know.
Alison Brown: What a
Jill Jaracz: way,
Alison Brown: and you know, Italy and Italy in these doubles races. Right. Makes a lot of sense because we always see the host country bump.
Jill Jaracz: [00:43:00] We do. But you know, you don’t have the host country necessarily, uh, the host country. Home field advantage because everybody’s had the same amount of time basically on this track.
Alison Brown: Right. And yet we’re seeing a home field advantage.
Jill Jaracz: Interesting.
Alison Brown: Nice.
Jill Jaracz: We’ll see what, what happens else in the sliding. It’ll be fun,
Alison Brown: but it’s fun to not see Germany on the top. Not I, not that I’ve anything against Germany, but I think it’s fun when you see that such a dominant country, and now we’ve got this other countries getting in the mix.
Jill Jaracz: Interesting. I will put on my list, uh, Armand Ziglar. ’cause I can’t remember how many off the top of my head. I’m not gonna look it up right now. But he was a mainstay in the luge. But you also had, um, this is why I’m gonna look it up. What’s his name? The German. The big guy. I cannot remember his name, which is killing me now, but we’ll, we’ll have some loose history tomorrow.
Win the Men Cove or [00:44:00] something. I don’t know. It’s late. It’s late and I’m going to the mountains tomorrow.
Alison Brown: Well, let’s get the show
Jill Jaracz: going. Uh, right. Um, also fun fact, uh, silver Medalist Wolfgang Kindle’s wife gave birth this week, two months early. But Mama and Baby are doing well. He wasn’t sure if he was going to raise and his wife said, I’ll do my job and you’ll do yours.
And he did job done both face.
Alison Brown: Such a practical woman. Go race now, Wolfgang.
Jill Jaracz: And one of the things we noticed in Beijing was if it was your birthday, you got a cake. And um, American Sean Hollander. Uh, it was his birthday today and he, he’s like, what are the odds that the Olympics double race lands on my birthday?
Best way to spend the day. And their media lady brought us this massive cake. I have no idea how she smuggled it in. She keeps reminding me not to forget it. Cake for everyone. [00:45:00]
Alison Brown: So babies being born, birthdays being celebrated. It was just party time. And the doubles luge today.
Results – Nordic combined
Jill Jaracz: That’s right. Moving over to Nordic combined, we had the individual Gunderson it, it’s listed here as meds, but let’s just face it.
They didn’t want the women here this time, even though the women compete well. Uh, it was the individual Gunderson ski jumping around 10 meters. Cross country gold. Went to Yen’s Lu Oterro from Norway. Silver Went to Johannes Arder from Austria and Bronze Went to Ro Hi Vin from Finland. And, uh, Shuk. Lesi by family.
Annika Maki’s brother Nicholas. Finished 18th. Now this was wild ’cause we looked at the standings, et cetera. ’cause they do the jumping and then they do the cross country and the top three for jumping
Alison Brown: disappeared. Yes. It was like, poof. Where did they go? Well, uh, Elvis Christian, who’s from Estonia, who had finished first in the jumping portion, ended up sixth overall.[00:46:00]
Jill Jaracz: That’s crazy.
Alison Brown: And there was a lot of that kind of movement within the top 10, uh, of the jumping that really fell behind in cross country. So it, it’s definite, you have a stronger side and you just have to pray almost, right, that your weaker side holds up.
Jill Jaracz: And I was looking quickly through our, our media intranet and there was something about a ski getting stuck in a fence.
So there must have been a fall somewhere. It’s, this is on my list to go back and look at, but it might take a while for this one. So we have another Nordic combined race coming up shortly, but that gets the start of that competition underway.
Results – Snowboard
Over in snowboard, we had the Women’s Halfpipe qualification standings.
American Chloe Kim is on top, followed by, uh, Zu from Japan, and Maddie Ma Mastro from USA. So as you remember, Chloe Kim dislocated her right shoulder five weeks ago. Uh, she [00:47:00] said she can’t move it much, but it almost keeps her more stable this way.
Alison Brown: Only Chloe Kim could come up with the idea that a dislocated shoulder somehow is helpful.
Jill Jaracz: Right. And it’s a torn labrum too. So there’s, there’s a lot going on there. But, uh, how is
Alison Brown: she doing this?
Jill Jaracz: I don’t know. I don’t know. And, uh, Japan, Sarah Zu is only 17 years old.
Alison Brown: She’s a baby. But then again, if you remember, so was Chloe Kim first time out?
Jill Jaracz: Yeah.
Alison Brown: When she won her first gold medal. So. It must be like looking in a mirror sometimes.
Jill Jaracz: Exactly. Uh, the men also had halfpipe qualification in first place going into the final runs. Scotty James from Australia’s in the lead. He was a third at Ye Chang and second at Beijing. So things are looking good for moving up.
Alison Brown: He’s hoping, I’m sure
Jill Jaracz: exactly, but he’s facing, uh, Japan’s Toka, Utah and Yamada Ruay.
And then in fourth, right now is Alessandro. Barbie from the [00:48:00] US
Alison Brown: final runs are gonna
Jill Jaracz: be tomorrow. That’s gonna be cool if anybody’s out there and sees Miles Garrett say hi from me. Not that he would know anything about this weird lady from northeast Ohio, but he’s here and I love Mascar. Uh, moving over to speed skating.
And if you don’t know who Miles Garrett is, he is a Cleveland Browns American football player. So he’s, he is like the best defender in the NFL.
Alison Brown: Is this Chloe Kim’s boyfriend?
Jill Jaracz: Chloe Kim’s boyfriend, yes. Oh, he got the Sac record this year. The all time SAC records for one season. We don’t
Alison Brown: want somebody like that around the halfpipe knocking people over.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, we do. Miles Garrett’s. Awesome.
Results – Speed skating
Anyway, let’s go over to speed skating. It was a men’s 1000 meters tonight. Jordan Stoltz from the US uh, got, uh, the gold and the [00:49:00] Olympic record boo. Uh, ying de boo from Netherlands got the silver and he also broke the Olympic record. Time
bronze went to Ning Jean from China, and uh, this was pretty. Intense. I will say this.
Alison Brown: Well, the most intense thing was the announcer who, my God, who I thought was gonna lose his mind. So we saw this on screen, you know, we were, we, we were watching and I happened to be sitting away from the screen. I was listening more than watching.
And I thought the poor man was gonna have an aneurysm. He really got so into it and so excited about this Olympic record. And Jordan Stoltz is the second coming and just didn’t quite have words but kept saying words.
Jill Jaracz: It was fantastic. I mean, there was, um. Another pair where there was a collision and he just was like, that’s a disaster.
That’s a disaster. And talking [00:50:00] about how the starter, uh, was really slow between the ready and the start. So there was a false start in there and people weren’t liking that it was a day.
Alison Brown: And that didn’t even involve the drone.
Jill Jaracz: No. It did involve a huge Dutch contingent whom we all ran into.
Alison Brown: So our la uh, hospitality space was right next door to Team Netherlands house.
So at one point, when we came. When we came out of the LA house, there was just this orange wave of people coming at us,
Jill Jaracz: and
Alison Brown: they kept
Jill Jaracz: coming
Alison Brown: and they kept coming. And then I turned the corner and I said, I think it’s a Dutch invasion, like the glorious revolution.
And they were all so tall.
Jill Jaracz: They were tall.
Alison Brown: And orange.
Jill Jaracz: They were orange and lots of them were eating pizza. [00:51:00]
Alison Brown: Yes. And then they all gathered to regroup the troops.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right.
Alison Brown: In the pizza place that we passed the children, the pregnant women, and they were all orange.
Jill Jaracz: They’re probably all lovely too.
Alison Brown: You know, they really, they really are.
But it was a little scary.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, and that end competition for today.
Shout outs, TKFLASTAN watch and mascots
We’ve got some shout outs for you.
Alison Brown: First up is Vale Roberts from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. She said that she’s looking forward to catching up with us in Milan because she’s a speed skating volunteer.
Jill Jaracz: You know when next time I go to the speed skating, I’m gonna have to look for my volunteer manager friend.
Alison Brown: That’s right.
Jill Jaracz: And make her give us an introduction
Alison Brown: and say, value.
I would just, I’ll just stand in the um, press section and yell, Alia, how many can there be?
Jill Jaracz: Not many because there’s one Olympian named Val Val [00:52:00] volva Deva, a Bulgarian sprinter who finished fifth in the four by 100 meter relay at Seoul 1988.
Alison Brown: And next up is Patrick Riley from Dallas.
He’s very kind. He said Good luck to you both. Might run into you all out there. We’ll be in Milan most of the his trip, but also up in the mountain venues of Cortina for a couple days. Good luck and thanks for the ground reports and vacuum stories we all love.
Jill Jaracz: I still don’t have a very good vacuum store yet.
I’m sorry.
Alison Brown: I did run into a mop.
Jill Jaracz: You did?
Alison Brown: Yeah.
Jill Jaracz: I forgot to tell me that.
Alison Brown: Sorry.
Jill Jaracz: Tell me tomorrow.
Alison Brown: It was after I got hit by the bird. So
Jill Jaracz: maybe, maybe Floor maintenance is not much of a priority. Sidewalk maintenance. I don’t know.
Alison Brown: We’ll find, I didn’t kill the bird or anything.
Jill Jaracz: I understand that. It
Alison Brown: just bounced off my head,
Jill Jaracz: you know?
Alison Brown: And I don’t like birds. The thing is, I don’t like birds to begin with. I’m afraid of them. And it’s [00:53:00] like, it knew. It just came from my head already.
Jill Jaracz: Um, well, Patrick, there’s not a Patrick Riley, but there is a Patrick Rowley from Switzerland. He competed in cross country skiing in 2002 at Salt Lake City. So there you have it, some Olympians for you.
Thank you so much both of you for being supporters of the show.
And we’ve got some shuk Ani competing tomorrow.
Alison Brown: Yes. So Julia Kern and Bru Na Maura will be in the 10 kilometer interval. Start in cross country. Chloe Kim, as we mentioned before, will be, uh, racing in the half. Final and we’ve got the luge team relay.
So both Chevon Forgan and Sophia Kirkby and Ashley Farguson will be racing in that.
Jill Jaracz: Let’s go, let’s go. And speaking of, let’s go, I’m going to the mountains. I’m going to try to go see that cross country event.
Alison Brown: I’m so proud of you.
Jill Jaracz: Well, thank you. Thank you. It, it’s gonna be an [00:54:00] adventure. There’s a train to a bus and uh, I will leave Milan.
On the train at 8 35 and I’m scheduled to get to cross country at one 19 in the afternoon. Cross country starts at one o’clock, but, but Bruno Mora is like way down on the start list. I have to look to see where Julia Kern is. So hopefully I will get to see her. Hopefully I will get to see Bruno Mora.
’cause I also foresee myself, even though I foresee getting lost, even though the spectator entrance I think is right by the bus stop. But that’s a big venue and you know me in media centers.
Alison Brown: Fingers crossed.
Jill Jaracz: Thank you. So fingers crossed I get back. That’s, that’s what I’m more worried about. I’m not as worried about getting out there.
Alison Brown: It’s getting home.
Jill Jaracz: It’s getting home.
Alison Brown: I hear you.
Jill Jaracz: But I’ve been looking at the weather report. It doesn’t seem like it’s that cold where they are for cross country.
Alison Brown: Excellent.
Jill Jaracz: So that’s good to hear. [00:55:00] We’ve got mascots.
Alison Brown: Speaking of getting cold, I have somebody that would love to keep you warm, and that is your mascot.
Abby,
Jill Jaracz: thank you. Thank you, Abby. I’m sure you would like to be snugly and prairie and make me rub you. That’s what cats do sometimes.
Alison Brown: Yes. And special little torty cats like Abby.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right. That’s right. She likes that. And that’s gonna do it for this episode. If you want even more of the most fun coverage from the games, hit us up.
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