What do you do on Day 11 of the Milano Cortina 2026 Winter Olympics?
If you’re Jill, you spend hours doing logistics. Then you go to speed skating and life gets a little better.
If you’re Alison, you get to figure skating early to see the women’s short program in action and try not to leave your seat.
If you’re in Livigno, you’re not seeing much because it snowed enough to postpone some competitions.
If you’re a Friend of Eric Heiden, you’re getting this pin.
If you want to carve the halfpipe like Alison does, this is what you’re in for.
Sports on today’s program:
- Biathlon
- Bobsled
- Curling
- Figure skating
- Freestyle skiing
- Ice hockey
- Nordic combined
- Snowboard
- Speed skating
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Milano Cortina 2026 Olympics: Day 11
Jill Jaracz: [00:00:00] And welcome to Keep the Flame Alive, day 11, coverage of the Milano Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games. I am your host, Jill Jaracz, coming to you from sh Stanhouse. Joined as always by my lovely co-host, Alison Brown. Allison Chow, commo. Ccia. It’s, you know, it’s so weird when. One of us walks in and we don’t talk to each other because we have to save it for the show.
Alison Brown: It’s, we, we say hello and then that’s it. It’s like, don’t say anything else until you get on [00:01:00] air. ‘
Jill Jaracz: cause you went to figure skating.
Alison Brown: I did go to figure skating and it, it was, it was interesting. I
Jill Jaracz: had it on so.
Alison Brown: Well, we’ll get to figure skating when we get there. Hang on.
Jill Jaracz: We got stuff first. Exactly. Uh, did you forget anything yesterday on yesterday’s show?
Alison Brown: If I forgot, I still haven’t remembered.
Jill Jaracz: Alright. I forgot to tell you that a couple days ago I almost got stuck in the metro.
Alison Brown: Oh no.
Jill Jaracz: And I couldn’t get out.
Alison Brown: Oh no.
Jill Jaracz: So the, the deal is we have, , uh, like a monthly pass on a QR code on our phone. Great. This is awesome. It’s very convenient. Unless you lose your phone, but this is how it is.
So you, have to click the, or scan the QR code to get into the metro and also to leave the metro gates. Well, sometimes I can’t get the QR code to load.
Alison Brown: Yes, that that’s happened to both of us at different points. Yes. Where the QR code doesn’t load either, then we can’t get in or more often for you has been, you can’t load it to [00:02:00] get out.
Jill Jaracz: Right. And not loading it to get in, I sometimes have to leave the metro station and get above ground in order for my phone to find the signal. Well, this time it couldn’t find it and couldn’t find it, and I kept like. Closing, totally exiting the app, getting totally out of there and, uh, resetting it and it’s not coming.
And I think I’m stuck in this metro all night. Well, only till two because that’s when I close. I’m sure if I stood there, they would actually, I would you out at some point. Well, yeah,
Alison Brown: you would’ve texted me and I would’ve come and rescued
Jill Jaracz: you with my
Alison Brown: QR code.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, exactly. So thankfully, uh, a check. Pair were also having problems.
They were Olympic something or others, but they were check and one of them got out and then the second one didn’t, and they don’t, didn’t have QR codes. They had like the little card tap cards.
Alison Brown: Mm-hmm.
Jill Jaracz: And it just wasn’t working for them. So the, the first guy tried to hand his card over and the second guy was like, no, no, no.
It’s gonna go crazy because you [00:03:00] have to go in. It has to register that you went in and then went out and I’m standing there trying to make mine work. And so, uh, the first Check Man, uh, scans his card to go in again and hands the card over to the second guy. The second guy scans it to go out and I just snuck out behind him, which I do not feel bad because if I got controlled I would just be like, I have this and it’s not working.
It’s so that’s been a frustration here and there. So luckily I am. Uh, alive and well and above ground,
Alison Brown: and I am very grateful for that. The two things that I worry about losing are the keys to the, to shucks townhouse.
Jill Jaracz: Yes,
Alison Brown: the, that was my fear today. Yes. And my phone.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. ‘
Alison Brown: cause that would be bad.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. Oh boy.
So we have a little follow up file. Uh, thank you to listener Brian for this fun fact that, uh, sh Ani Bill Mallon, also historian and, uh, Nick Sardi, our friend, who is an NBC [00:04:00] reporter, posted on x uh, Alana, my Myers Taylor, Bob and Kaylee Arm, Bruster Humphreys are the first non teammates to appear on.
Olympic podium together for five consecutive games.
Alison Brown: Wow.
Jill Jaracz: That’s a fun
Alison Brown: fact. That’s fantastic. And that just speaks to the strength of both of those women. Mm-hmm. And how long their careers have been and how much they have accomplished.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, yes, yes. Um, also follow up, we got wind that some people wanted to be to pronounce themselves friends of Eric Heden.
So there is a pin available. We will have a link to that in the show notes. So you ask you, we deliver, you know, we’re all friends of Eric Heden now. Just, you gotta prove it. Pins, stickers, magnets. Yeah.
Alison Brown: One day I’m really gonna get to meet him and we’re gonna have to explain all of this.
Jill Jaracz: Well, I got a photo with Eric Hein today.
Alison Brown: What
Jill Jaracz: I did
Alison Brown: what? [00:05:00]
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. You know that, uh, in portello, the, the metro stop, there’s that big figure skating.
Well, I know you were at speed skating,
Alison Brown: so I didn’t know
Jill Jaracz: if he
Alison Brown: was there and
Jill Jaracz: somehow you got
Alison Brown: a
Jill Jaracz: picture with him. No, I’m working on that too, but in the Portello metro station there. Art installation, which is really kind of funky and it, there’s so much information in there. So if you go into the metro stop a lot, you get something to look at new every time.
But it goes through like all of the figure skating disciplines and I think even hockey and, and explains them and, and talks through the timeline and has pictures of the big winners. And of course there’s a picture of Eric Heiden. And so I took a selfie.
Alison Brown: See, for some reason I’m never in Portello.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I know this was, well, I had to go to the media center.
Alison Brown: That’s
Jill Jaracz: why we’ll get to that soon too. Um, are there officiating a volunteer jobs you would like to [00:06:00] do?
Alison Brown: Yes, and this is courtesy of listener Meredith who posted, uh, a video of them carving out the halfpipe.
There’s a truck that does this now. I don’t wanna drive the truck because that seems like a lot of. Responsibility, but I bet the truck driver has a second in there, like an assistant copilot that makes sure that all the things are going the way they’re supposed to be going. I want that job.
Jill Jaracz: Okay. I will have to look for this video and we’ll have to post it on the show notes as well.
’cause I do not know how they carve the half pipe. I’m still working on pine branches. And I got an answer about like, oh, they provide field of depth, field of depth and everything. And then I had to go, well, yeah, but who puts them there
Alison Brown: and where do you get them from? Do you go
Jill Jaracz: into the forest? I didn’t get, I didn’t even get to that far because I have to educate a new media person on how weird we are.
Okay. And it’s not really weirdness when we’re really excited [00:07:00] and want to know. Right Stephanie Listener. There’s Stephanie Kaa listener right now. Oh, we’re gonna have a good show tonight. Oh, you, I can tell.
Alison Brown: Which is amazing because I had a horrible day. I was gonna say you’ve had a day. I can tell.
Jill Jaracz: Um, but yeah, I’ve got, it’s hard when, if you’re trying to introduce yourselves to new people and, and they don’t understand how in the weeds, we like to go instantly
Alison Brown: and, and quite literally.
’cause we’re talking about branches.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right.
Alison Brown: Do you go in the forest and collect them? I
Jill Jaracz: know. I’m dying to know. So, because
Alison Brown: if they do, I would like that, I would volunteer for that job.
Jill Jaracz: For Pine Branch
Alison Brown: collection.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah.
Alison Brown: Oh yeah.
Jill Jaracz: That would be good. That would be good. Okay. So I would like to be the volunteer who makes a very sad journalist happy.
Alison Brown: Oh.
Jill Jaracz: It’s, it’s been a, a really rough. Day for me because I spent hours and hours on logistics and don’t even get me started on how much I hate the [00:08:00] transit app because we are still desperately trying to get to Cortina and trying to figure out how to make that work. Well, when you put in, I would like to go to Cortina.
You first. Well first of all, we have to figure out what the major bus stop is. ’cause I first was like, well, let me get to a venue. And that wasn’t necessarily getting me to the main hub transit wise. So you had to figure that out. And then you have to put in, you have to put in like a really early time in the morning, otherwise it just doesn’t come up with stuff.
Or it comes up with like one trip because that’s the time you picked. So if you wanna see an actual timetable. Of how often the bus goes from Venice, which we can afford to stay in up to Corina. You have to put in like two in the morning. That’s when you wanna leave, and then it will spit out a list, which is great.
You get the whole list for the day, except for it tells you in the list what time you will arrive in cor. [00:09:00] It does not tell you what time you have to leave, so you have to click on every single option in order to figure out what time you have to go. And we have figured out right now if I have it correct, that we could leave Venice, we can get up to Cortina.
We could be there for about three, maybe four hours. And then we have to go back to Venice because that’s the last trip and I went to the main press center today and spoke to, there are three people manning the desk and one of them, and I think it’s because English is a second language. It just sounded very harsh.
And they’re like, yeah, that’s it. That’s all the trips that are, they’re they’re in there. And then I had to figure out how to get to and from Verona for the closing ceremonies. Well, the app will tell you how to get to there. The app will not tell you how to get home, and that is because I have to go to Milano Central train station and get a ticket.[00:10:00]
Alison Brown: What
Jill Jaracz: to get home from Verona, I need to go to the train station and get a ticket.
Alison Brown: Oh.
Jill Jaracz: And there’s a special desk there and they’re like, go to the desk in Milano Central and like where it’s a big train station. Because I mean, seriously, why do I have to ask that?
Alison Brown: And. How are we supposed to know that?
Jill Jaracz: I have no idea.
Well, you’re supposed to go to the help desk, I guess, because they’re not, I mean, the MPC was dead tonight.
Alison Brown: Wow. Well, I’m glad you found out that piece of information ’cause that’s huge.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. It’s been, it’s been a day, so there’s nothing worse than like having a nice day outside. Tons of stuff to do. And you’re stuck at a table
Alison Brown: with
Jill Jaracz: a
Alison Brown: spreadsheet,
Jill Jaracz: with a spreadsheet, with an app and a PDF of the transit line map that is incredibly hard to decipher and you’re still holding out hope that maybe you could eke out a [00:11:00] trip to biathlon.
Which still ain’t happening, but, and Cortina may not happen, but there every once in a while, tonight, I was like, I’m making it happen. I’m making it happen. Tell you, don’t tell me Milano Corino, that you’re gonna spread everything out and not let me get there angry. So I had a really bad day.
Alison Brown: Yeah. I’m so
Jill Jaracz: worried in the morning.
Then I went to speed skating and I went to sit down in the, the single seats or went to get a, a, a, a seat so I could have a lap desk. And there was a lovely volunteer who was like, do you need a seat? And I said, at a table. Really? And she’s like, yeah, there’s a couple left. And snuck me up there and boom, got me in a seat.
She was the best.
Alison Brown: That’s fantastic.
Jill Jaracz: So good.
Alison Brown: I love those volunteers. My volunteer tried to take my seat away. What
Jill Jaracz: were you going away for? An extended period of time?
Alison Brown: I went to make a phone call to call my family at home and I came back and she’s like, oh, I was [00:12:00] wondering where you were, and I said, my computer is here, my bag is here.
Obviously I’m here, but I needed to go to the work room.
Jill Jaracz: Can’t leave those seats. They’re really weird like that in figure skating.
Alison Brown: Yeah. I mean, it’s one thing to reserve a seat, but obviously there is a person there working.
Jill Jaracz: Yes.
Alison Brown: But you cannot work that whole time because it’s so loud in the arena.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm.
Alison Brown: That obviously making a phone call, you can’t do it there, but even just for a few minutes so your brain doesn’t explode from,
Jill Jaracz: or if you had to go to the bathroom, heaven forbid, do you need a pee bottle?
Alison Brown: Apparently no snack for you.
Jill Jaracz: Wow. Snack. What’s a snack? You’re supposed to have those in your bag because there’s no snacks anywhere.
Um, cultural moments besides, uh, logistics day from,
Alison Brown: I mean, the only cultural moment was I had this woman trying to steal my seat and I had to, you know, smooth this over. [00:13:00] It was international diplomacy at its finest.
Jill Jaracz: Oh man. Yeah, I know. It was not a good day for Jill and International. I was pleasant enough, but.
Shocked at the transport desk. Um, it happy lunar New Year if you’re celebrating.
Alison Brown: Yes. Red Envelope Day.
Jill Jaracz: And, uh, there is a big parade in Milano, got rescheduled to March 1st, so I was bummed about that too. So
Alison Brown: the Dragon parade was rescheduled?
Jill Jaracz: Yes. It’s rescheduled to March 1st when we will likely not be in Milano.
Alison Brown: This is true.
Jill Jaracz: So, and then I
Alison Brown: wouldn’t be surprised if we heard some fireworks tonight though.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I would not be surprised either. Um, then I went on some scavenger hunt type stuff, looking for a specific type of candy that is in a Milo and Tina. Tin and I found it, and I almost stopped and had a sandwich at the sandwich bar.
But on the way I, I ran into somebody I knew on the metro line, somebody from [00:14:00] Olympian, Jeff, that was great. He was going to hockey. I was like, I’m not dealing with the hockey venue and that trek.
Alison Brown: No,
Jill Jaracz: no.
Alison Brown: There are days where you just, you can handle that track. Right. And today is not that day.
Jill Jaracz: So I, I got what I was looking for, which was a win because it’s starting to get to like, Ooh, do you have time to go?
Do these things
Alison Brown: right,
Jill Jaracz: and like go to the post office, which would be nice because there’s no post office in the main press center, which there usually is. There’s also no post office in the athlete’s village, which shocks me,
Alison Brown: huh?
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, there’s just no, and there’s a, the, the postal service is a sponsor and I’m surprised that the athletes don’t have that.
Anyway. Uh. Decided to get off at ROI and go to the castle and see, oh, what’s up with the fan zone and what’s up? Maybe Coke has a short line, or Ilunga has a short line. Well, everything was closed by then except for the fan zone, which did have people [00:15:00] watching. They were watching the, the big air stuff. So I kind of looked at that and then I kept moving towards the Arco de Apache because I’ve never seen the light show.
Alison Brown: Mm-hmm.
Jill Jaracz: Missed that by a couple minutes. Then I went to Kara for, and got some Prosecco,
Alison Brown: which, you know, I don’t see a problem with. That’s the culture you needed Prosecco.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right. So here we are. Before we get to today’s results, we’d like to take a moment to think everybody who’s donated to our fundraiser to get us here and, and enjoy logistics, uh, because the logistics have made this trip phenomenally expensive and,
we are very appreciative of everybody who has, uh, pitched in to make it possible. We are doing 32 daily episodes here from Milano Cortina over the course of the Olympics and Paralympics, and, uh, stuff like that takes a little bit of coin to make happen, so we appreciate those who’ve donated. It also takes a little bit of coin to keep this show going and keep our flame alive through LA 2028.
So if you appreciate the coverage we’ve been bringing you, [00:16:00] uh, which is I’ll say it is coverage like no other,
Alison Brown: no one else talks about logistics.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I dare Bow and ynk take it on that.
Alison Brown: Well, because they’ve. Staff that do it for them, they have no clue that they can’t find a post office.
That’s some poor PA’s job.
Jill Jaracz: So if you appreciate the coverage you’re getting here, please stop by flame ipod.com and uh, support the show today. You can go, there should be a popup. Right now or go to flame live pod.com/support. And, uh, patrons you are getting your daily photos if you are a Patreon patron and, uh, starting to get to the videos for those who are at the video level and up.
Nice. $5 and up. Yes, I did. This has not happened yet, but I have. Taken a ride on the Metro with my video phone and I think I get yelled at by somebody for taking a video on the train. So we’ll see if I can find those.
Alison Brown: As long as that wasn’t today. ’cause if somebody yelled at you on the metro today, I think you [00:17:00] might have, you might have caused an international incident.
Jill Jaracz: No, no, no. Not today’s. It’s been a long time, but I, I suddenly those, those videos came up again. I’m like, why is this still on my phone? Because again.
Photos,
Jill Jaracz: phone storage. Phone storage is, is an ever increasing problem with me too. Anyway, flame ipod.com/support. Let’s get to results.
Alison Brown: Biathlon first
Jill Jaracz: light snow today in Biathlon.
Alison Brown: Yes, which is gonna affect the shooting
Jill Jaracz: a little bit. Uh, four men’s four by 7.5 kilometer relay gold. Went to France, silver went to Norway, bronze went to Sweden. It, it was a good race that had a lot of ups and downs until you got to the fourth leg and there’s. Just a gap. Everybody is so far apart from each other there.
The France and Norway were pretty close. They were a few seconds away and it was possible that Norway could have pulled out the skiing of a lifetime and caught ’em up. But there you just ran outta real estate at some point. So, So there was a huge gap between third and fourth, and then another [00:18:00] huge gap between fourth and fifth. But you
Alison Brown: know who is fifth USA and our Sean Dougherty.
Jill Jaracz: That’s right. Sean raced the first leg for the US team. He, uh, in the prone stage, he had to go to two extra bullets, but he was clean in the standing.
Skiing was a little slow, and on his leg he fell from fifth to 16th place. Maxim Germaine got them up to 12th. Paul Schomer finished his leg in 11th, and then Campbell Wright just smoked it on the first lap. Got the US into sixth. Going so fast, you get a little bad shooting. Then they went down to 10th and he clawed his way back up and had a great final shoot to end in fifth place,
Alison Brown: which is the best finish by a US team in the Relay
Jill Jaracz: Men’s team.
Alison Brown: Men’s team? Yes. Oh, right. ’cause women’s team has,
Jill Jaracz: has,
Alison Brown: yeah. Oh,
Jill Jaracz: done this already?
Alison Brown: Yes. Show off.
Jill Jaracz: So, so, uh, very exciting day for them. They get a diploma. In bobsled, we had the end of the two-man competition.
Alison Brown: Yeah,
Jill Jaracz: we did. Yeah. This is, this is frustrating. Germany [00:19:00] sw the podium. Gold went to Johannes Lochner and Georg Fle.
Showerer Silver went to France, Cisco, Friedrich, and uh, Alexander Schueller and Bronze went to Adam Amour and Alexander Scholler.
Alison Brown: No,
Jill Jaracz: the the Schuler and the Ellers. The sch. Wow.
Alison Brown: That’s a, the, when I was putting in that information, I said, Jill’s going to think I made a mistake. She’s gonna think I made a typo.
And no, a Schuler and Scholler, um, Francisco Friedrich was going for a threepeat.
Jill Jaracz: Oh. And not, not happen.
Alison Brown: Did not. He’s also, uh, going for a three-peat in the four man.
Jill Jaracz: Ooh.
Alison Brown: So we’ll see. He’s been the double, uh, gold medalist now, two in a row. So we’re gonna see if he, uh. Can do it in, in, in that spot.
Jill Jaracz: And our sh s Frank or Frankie, as everyone seems to call him in the Olympic movement, we’ve been calling him like Sergeant, what was his rank?
He’s a rank to us. We’re, we’re busy calling him Sergeant. They’re like, Frankie, hey. And, uh, [00:20:00] Frank Duca and Josh Williamson took fourth 0.44 seconds out of the podium and lost most of that time on their third run. So that was a, that was frustration, you know? Uh. There. It’s bittersweet to be close to that metal spot, Frank said, but it’s a good result.
And a few years ago, they would’ve been back flipping with Joy, and that’s very true.
Alison Brown: Right? This is the best finish that they’ve had since the night train days in 2010. Wow. So this is a big accomplishment for the program to be seeing these results.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. So it’s exciting. Tough, tough to take when you are really competitive like these two are and they’re really proud of where they finished.
But you know, let’s look onto the four man. Maybe. Maybe we can make it happen in curling. I’m so jealous of listener Patrick. He posted in our Facebook group. The Vacuum Inc. At curling.
Alison Brown: We love the vacuuming at curling. So the carpet [00:21:00] prior to the matches are always vacuumed and vacuumed Incredibly precisely,
Jill Jaracz: yes.
Alison Brown: So he got to see it on the feed Is was with this?
Jill Jaracz: No, I think he’s there.
Alison Brown: What do you mean he’s there?
Jill Jaracz: Patrick Riley’s been here.
Alison Brown: Oh, I forgot that now I’m really jealous.
Jill Jaracz: Right. I, I believe Patrick, let us know if you, if you’re there or not, because the, you don’t see the, the vacuuming on the feed. This is like way beforehand.
Alison Brown: This is true. But this is before the bagpipes come out.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And um, so that made me happy that we had some vacuuming for these games and, uh, jealous because again, still trying to get to Corino. Anyway,
Alison Brown: so close and yet, so far,
Jill Jaracz: right. So we had, uh, the men had the big. Day of round Robin competition Switzerland.
Beat Sweden. Nine four. China beat us. Eight five Czechia beat Germany. Nine seven Germany beat Switzerland. Eight four, uh, Italy. [00:22:00] Beat USA eight five. They were tied until the fifth in this one. And then Italy got three in the the sixth and that was it. Canada beat Great Britain nine, five, and Sweden beat Norway.
Seven four. We have not talked about the fact that the pants are back.
Alison Brown: The pants are back. So. It. What was the team that had the pants? Team re was that his
Jill Jaracz: name? Maybe. Maybe the, this started like back in Vancouver, right?
Alison Brown: At least I think it, it must have been. So they had these patterned pants that they, that Norway always wore and for Valentine’s Day, they would wear hearts, they would wear the Norwegian flag.
It was a, a real thing. And then he retired.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm.
Alison Brown: And subsequently passed away very young. The skip of that team, he passed away in 2022.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, I didn’t realize that.
Alison Brown: Yes, I read that today. So that with a new skip, the new skip didn’t bring back the pants, but now they did. So the patterned pants are back.
Jill Jaracz: I love the pants.
Men’s standings, [00:23:00] Switzerland, still undefeated at seven and oh. Canada is six and one. Italy and Norway are four and three. Great Britain and the US are four and four. Germany is three and five. China is two and five. Sweden is two and six and Czechia is one and six. Probably safe to say that Checky and Sweden not gonna make it through to the next round.
Alison Brown: Yeah, but that’s okay for the Swedes. Their women are doing quite well,
Jill Jaracz: that they are in the women’s round. Robin Sweden, beat Canada eight to six. Italy beat Japan, eight to six USA beat Denmark, 10 to three, and that was like a, that was a shorter game because it was just such a lead on that one. And Switzerland beat Korea seven to five.
So those standings are, Sweden is in first with a six and one record. Switzerland and the US are at five and two. Canada and Korea are at four three. Denmark is at three and four. China is at and Great Britain are both two and four. Oh, that man, that’s [00:24:00] heartbreaking for Great Britain.
Alison Brown: I know. Defending gold medalists.
Jill Jaracz: Ugh. Ugh. Uh, Italy is two and five and Japan is one in six. I wonder how young Great Britain’s team is or you know, like on the world stage, not necessarily young. Young.
Alison Brown: Well, it did turn over.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah.
Alison Brown: Yeah. So that must big makes a big difference when you’ve got a brand new Skip after, you know, losing Eve Muirhead, who was so experienced even though she was so young that that had to be a big loss.
That to that program
Jill Jaracz: on the list turnovers, ’cause we have some more turnover later on. And different team stuff.
Alison Brown: Yeah. I mean, in the the US all of a sudden we don’t have John Schuster anymore.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah,
Alison Brown: we have Danny Casper who’s a kid.
Jill Jaracz: I love it when you call people kids,
Alison Brown: well, he actually is a kid.
Jill Jaracz: How old is he?
Alison Brown: Oh, he’s like 12.
Jill Jaracz: He’s not 12.
Alison Brown: He looks it.
Jill Jaracz: All right. Moving to figure skating, you were at the Women’s Short. I was watching it [00:25:00] on the feed,
Alison Brown: yes. So the big thing I wanted to talk about was the music, because last time around we had a lot of questionable music choices in in Beijing that you commented on and having seen. We still have some questionable music choices, but in a completely different way.
Okay. It’s a lot of pop songs and it’s a lot of reinterpreted pop songs.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, right. Somebody else is covering it.
Alison Brown: Yes. We don’t have too many hooked on classics,
Jill Jaracz: thank goodness. ’cause
Alison Brown: we did, we did not have a malagia, this whole competition.
Jill Jaracz: Wow. You know who should have, uh, we were talking today in Shuk Stanhouse about the the new rhythm dance theme for next year.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: And it’s waltz.
Alison Brown: It is
Jill Jaracz: waltz and uh, you know what they should have for a rhythm bands theme hooked on classics. Just barrage all the judges with hooked on classics all the time. And if you don’t know what hooked on classics is, go to the Facebook group. I’ll find a video for you. It’s ugh, man, [00:26:00] there.
It’s a certain age range. Who knows and understands, and if you don’t, then you can go, wow, yeah, we shouldn’t go back to the seventies and eighties.
Alison Brown: But there are many good things from the seventies, mostly Mona Shea’s music.
Jill Jaracz: Oh yeah, she is a Donna Summer.
Alison Brown: She did a Donna Summer and it is so funny because she is very young and obviously I, I’m not even sure her mother knew this music.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, geez. Are we that old now?
Alison Brown: Well, I mean, she’s very young, so I, I think about how old my daughter is and Mona Chia is younger than yet, so we were kids with Donna Summer.
Jill Jaracz: Right.
Alison Brown: You know, that was not our high school years or anything, thank goodness. So, and yet Mona Chia loves this program. She kept it from last year and it’s last dance, and she skates the heck out of it.
It’s fantastic. It’s
Jill Jaracz: a catchy song. We’re not gonna deny that
Alison Brown: it’s catchy and it works even though it’s, it, it, it [00:27:00] has no depth to her. But under rotations. We’re rife tonight, so nobody fell. Not nobody fell, but certainly in the last two groups, nobody fell. But we had doubles instead of triples.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, we’ll get to that.
We’ll get to that. Can I go back to the music real quick
Alison Brown: and under rotations? Sure.
Jill Jaracz: Because the commentators on the feed did not get Isabel Lito’s music. They were like, we, it’s really quirky. It’s kind of bizarre. And, and the, the male. A commentator said, and well, and Sophia Loren is not known for her singing.
So Isabel Lido is doing a Sophia Loren song.
Alison Brown: Homage.
Jill Jaracz: Yes.
Alison Brown: You know, kind of playing the character of Sophia Loren in her 1950s music,
Jill Jaracz: because she’s here in Italy.
Alison Brown: Right. She’s of Melanie’s descent as well. She has a family right here in Milan and in the, in the surrounding area. So she has a connection to this place?
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And they just did not get that. [00:28:00] I, I, I am shocked that, no, they did not put Sophia Loren and did the math on Oh, we’re in Italy. That really surprised me. What they also said about, uh, who is the Georgian, ’cause you know the names better than I
Alison Brown: do. Uh, Anastasia Ava.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. So they said her, uh, Bollywood type number.
It was a bold choice for that music. Someone from Russia skating for Georgia, but she pulled it off and they, they really seemed to like it a lot better. I’m like, really? You liked that?
Alison Brown: I was with her. To a certain extent I get where she was going, but I would say it was a bold choice, that’s for sure.
Jill Jaracz: Okay, now back to the actual skating.
Alison Brown: So as I said, unfortunately Amber Glenn doubled her triple and.
Jill Jaracz: And, and that’s frustrating because one of the required with the short program, you have a list of required elements. Yes. If you do not do the required element, it is nothing.
Alison Brown: Right? So if in the [00:29:00] long program you double a triple, you get some points for that double.
Jill Jaracz: Yes.
Alison Brown: It’s not a lot and you don’t wanna be doing that too often, but you don’t get dinged for it. But in the short program, one of the requirements is another triple and she didn’t do it, which means you get a zero for that element.
Jill Jaracz: Is that fair?
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: How come?
Alison Brown: Because that’s the point of the short program.
The free program is called the Free Program for a reason. ’cause you can make those choices, but the short program, you’ve got a list of required elements and you have to hit them.
Jill Jaracz: It was frustrating ’cause several skaters. Did not, we’re in the same boat. Yes. Laura Aki Gutman.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Uh uh. Maddie Skies,
Alison Brown: yes. Who ended up not qualifying for the free program.
She really struggled.
Jill Jaracz: That’s rough. I mean, it, it’s really frustrating because Amber Glenn’s program was really beautiful and if you [00:30:00] went and did not know that she doubled the triple and therefore is just in like 12th, 13th,
Alison Brown: uh, she’s in 13th place.
Jill Jaracz: Um, and
Alison Brown: her triple axle was stunning. Oh my gosh. It was so good.
It looked like a double. It just, it was light and airy and a beautiful exiting edge. And I said, oh, she’s home free.
Jill Jaracz: Mm-hmm.
Alison Brown: No.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, that was frustrating. And she was just cry crying on the ice, basically.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: She, she knew that was it. She,
Alison Brown: Maddie Skies as well. ’cause you knew
Jill Jaracz: And that, I think that’s, I, I don’t know.
I’m not a super fan of the required element. I would say, you know, just if we require this, but if you double it, you get a deduction because the, it’s hard because the rest of the, the judging is, well, they tried, which is why we were getting all these men who would not, not this time around, but the, before they could really get a quad, they would just try it and they’d [00:31:00] get a massive number of points for trying
Alison Brown: right
Jill Jaracz: and falling versus.
Landing a triple,
Alison Brown: but we’ve tried to get away from that. They’re being much stricter with the under rotations and marking them down and not giving them credit for those attempted quads that come out to nothing.
Jill Jaracz: So, I don’t know. I, I just, I wish there was a happier medium on this. Okay. Don’t like people crying like that?
No. When they, when they, when they put on a beautiful show.
Alison Brown: Yes. Yeah.
Jill Jaracz: Anyway.
Alison Brown: Japan did very well.
Jill Jaracz: They did do well.
Alison Brown: Ami Naka, uh, who is the youngest of the trio of, of Japanese is in first place. Kiri. Sakamoto is in second place. Alyssa Liu is in third. She did a beautiful short mm-hmm. Nice and clean, and all those scores are pretty close together.
They’re in within a couple of points of each other. And then Monet Chiba, who we mentioned, is in fourth.
Still hoping for Cowie.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, it was beautiful. Was beautiful. She, she’s got [00:32:00] a, a Tina Tote. A Tina Stoke tote. Fuzzy one.
Alison Brown: I’m not surprised. So we will have the long free program on Thursday night.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. Uh, so all other, they were, the commentators were actually devastated for Amber.
Alison Brown: How could you not be?
Jill Jaracz: Yes.
Alison Brown: Because she’s been skating so well and so beautifully. Mm-hmm. And.
Jill Jaracz: And it was still beautiful. That’s
Alison Brown: what was killing me. And it was still beautiful because she didn’t fall, she didn’t break. Mm-hmm. She just doubled the triple.
Jill Jaracz: I think you can get less points, um, because they were like, oh, Amber, let’s give her some encouragement.
Encouragement, which was really nice to hear.
Alison Brown: You know, the crowd was a little flat until that last group came out, but if anybody makes a mistake, they will. Cheer, like there’s no tomorrow for anything that that person does. Aw. That’s what I love about figure skating [00:33:00] crowds. They do not revel in any mistake.
Jill Jaracz: And you said Katerina Vit and Lori Hernandez were in the house.
Alison Brown: Yeah. So Katina Vit made an appearance in one of the ice breaks, as did Lori Hernandez and, and Ben Gusto, uh, was interviewing them.
Jill Jaracz: Nice. And uh, on the feed we saw IA melanin.
Alison Brown: Yes.
Jill Jaracz: Hanging out with Martha Stewart and Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg, who had headphones on, so
Alison Brown: sparkly headphones.
Jill Jaracz: So they must have been doing some kind of talk
Alison Brown: commentary for somebody.
Jill Jaracz: If you’ve watched and you know, let us know.
Alison Brown: I’m not sure. I wanna know.
Jill Jaracz: I’m curious enough, moving over to freestyle skiing. We had, uh, a lot of weather. Up in Lavino. Lot of snow. Just a lot of weather. But it was funny ’cause we had that on.
And, uh, it would be like, oh, the race was supposed to start at 11. It’s been postponed to 1115 and it’s pouring snow. And then, then it was like postponed to not start before 1130. [00:34:00] I’m like, really? It’s not, it’s not gonna start.
Alison Brown: And then that poor guys were shoveling off the road, the, the runway and trying to keep it clear.
And I finally, they just gave up and said, no, we are, we’re gonna postpone this till tomorrow. We’re gonna do the qualifications and the finals in the same day. And we’re gonna see how this goes.
Jill Jaracz: But they did get the free ski, big air off and gold went to Norway’s Tor mud for silver, went to Mark Forehand from the US and Bronze went to mate Funker from Austria.
And they said, uh, the competitors were like, the level of competition was really. And world champion right now. Luca Harrington from New Zealand placed sixth. That’s how crazy. And, and Mark Forehand said he had done like two great jumps in a row and he is like, I am not used to that. So then he just pulled out this, I don’t even know what this is.
So I, I’m quoting this, I have to go find out because the freestyle jumps are, they have all those names that don’t make sense. [00:35:00] To people, especially older women. He did a nose butter, triple cork, 2160
Alison Brown: nose butter.
Jill Jaracz: I don’t know what that means,
Alison Brown: nor do I. I mean 2160, that’s how many rotations. Yes,
I can get with that. But nose butter.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. And cork. It’s corkscrew, triple corkscrew. I don’t know what the nose butter is,
Alison Brown: huh? Maybe he grabs his nose.
Jill Jaracz: Grab the nose, grab the board, do a trip.
I’m sure the judges love that one. Grab your skis and your nose. Oh my gosh. Okay. Uh, but you know, on the list for us, in ice hockey, we had men’s, The last of it for the men’s round robin type stuff. This was the qualification for the playoffs. Sweden beat Latvia five one Czechia beat Denmark, three to two. Switzerland, beat [00:36:00] Italy, three to zero. Germany beat France five to one. So the quarterfinals are gonna be Slovakia versus Germany, Canada versus Czechia, Finland versus Switzerland. And USA Vertes, Sweden.
Alison Brown: Oh,
Jill Jaracz: it’s gonna be good. That’s good. It’s gonna be good. Yeah. Um. In Nordic combined, we had the men, the men’s we had just ’cause it’s only men,
Alison Brown: right?
Jill Jaracz: Uh, individual Gunderson, a large hill. And the 10 kilometer skiing gold went to Yenz la Borough from Norway. Silver went to Johannes la parter from Austria and bronze went to Ika Harold from
Alison Brown: Finland.
Jill Jaracz: Oh, okay. Nice. I should have guessed with the, the, the name spelling. Uh, we had a repeat gold and silver from the normal hill event.
Uh, our sh ani by contact, by relation
Alison Brown: by
Jill Jaracz: friend, family by friend. Sh Ani by friend is uh, Nicholas Malki. [00:37:00] He finished 13th. He is brother of Annika Malki, and after bro finished fifth after the jumping portion pulled ahead of lo parter in the last kilometer of the cross country race. Wow. He’s gonna race with his brother Einar in the team event.
Alison Brown: Yes. Einar finished in the top 10 here as well, so I was getting very confused because it was Einar lo, ota, bro. Like their middle name is also the same.
Jill Jaracz: Oh,
Alison Brown: so I, as I was reading the results and going through some of the, the details, I kept getting confused about which after, bro, bro, I was talking about
Jill Jaracz: snowboard got postponed.
They were supposed to be the Women’s Slope style, so it’s postponed to tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully we will be done with the snow by then. The men’s final was also, uh, tomorrow, but got moved up to earlier in the day. And, uh, we have a, uh, Brian Carberry repeat watch. If Mark McMorris from Canada wins bronze, he will be the [00:38:00] first ever Olympian to four Pete in a bronze medal.
In an individual event. Wow. Which is a wild thing to like be remarkable about. So I’m very curious that this will happen. I’m not sure, like as an athlete,
Alison Brown: you wanna be known for having won the bronze medal so many times.
Jill Jaracz: Well, I don’t know because like you managed to get on the podium.
Alison Brown: This is true and he’s coming off that injury, that crash.
Yes. So I think any podium finish would be quite an accomplishment for him this time around.
Jill Jaracz: I would also not be surprised if he did not realize,
Alison Brown: right, he’s busy.
Jill Jaracz: I’m too busy to know my stats.
Alison Brown: Well, he’s competing and he’s a dad and he’s got other things going on.
Jill Jaracz: It’s been a day.
Alison Brown: I’m glad I could still [00:39:00] make you laugh after this
Jill Jaracz: day. It’s so hot. It’s so hot in here. My gosh. I gotta speed skating, which now we’re at speed skating and I’m just like, I am cutting. I am like. Put a garbage bag on me. You don’t have to. I’m sweating like crazy. I’m making weight. Whatever weight I’m supposed to be, I am making it in these three weeks.
It is rough.
I mean, I do, I do know that I have to lose weight. And I don’t feel my body. That’s not the way I know because, because once I get home and actually drink water, it’s those sweatsuits from the seventies. No, I’m just gonna have to sit at my desk with a garbage bag over my body so I can keep it off Anyway.
Went to speed skating. You got a table? I got a table. And the view from the table is really nice actually, because you see so much more of the [00:40:00] track.
Alison Brown: Yes. ’cause you’re higher up.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. Um, so we had the team pursuit, the men’s and the women’s, the finals for that. Um, I did finally hear, imagine before the men’s finale.
Oh,
Alison Brown: I’m sorry.
Jill Jaracz: And everyone, it was like, everyone get out your flashlights. So people got out their flashlights like they’re supposed to, and they play the music and then they fade it when the crowd is supposed to like take over some words and like, nobody’s taking over, nobody’s singing. Nobody wants this song.
Okay.
Alison Brown: Nobody wants this.
Jill Jaracz: We have a new IOC President.
Alison Brown: Let’s retire. Imagine in her honor.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. Yes, exactly. And I gotta say, we gotta, I am so shocked that the Italians do not have a better like fun zone people to make every event more fun. ’cause the second they get people all excited, they do something that turns everyone off and brings everything down.
And I even see it ’cause [00:41:00] I had ti Chee on. And it’s like, you know, we’ve been watching the Italian Wheel of Fortune, which has a band, they have a band on Wheel of Fortune here. They can’t do something more fun with not the Ochi.
Alison Brown: It’s very serious. There’s a woman in a uniform I know who scares the Jesus outta me.
Jill Jaracz: So, but yeah, the, the. The pump ’em up. Excitement for the crowd is lousy. It was country roads bring me, uh, take me home to the place where I belong. Sweet Caroline. These are all like, oh, well, Americans must be coming. We need to play these songs. Really Dutch do you know these songs from, like, do they play these in the speed skating venues?
In the, in the Netherlands?
Alison Brown: Sweet Caroline is Beyond Borders.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I understand that. And so is country roads take me home. ’cause I’ve heard it in the Hoff bro house years ago. And it, it should be [00:42:00] done. We should be done with that. Never. And, uh, don’t stop believing, don’t stop. You know what? I’m not stopping to believe that you can actually make, not bring us down with something like nothing is pumping up.
They needed, they, they did the karaoke to Wonder Wall.
Alison Brown: Oh,
Jill Jaracz: it was so bad.
Alison Brown: I don’t know what, you know, first week they did karaoke to re and that was such a hit. Right? Why did we make that go away? I, it could have been the sha Yes. Of, of this game.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. We should be singing.
Alison Brown: We had a dance and a song at the opening ceremonies that we have never seen since.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, the Milano Corina dancing song, we should be singing Vale off the charts. And I remember in Paris how many soundtrack songs. Like we had a whole playlist from Spot on Spotify for all the songs we heard in venues that were fantastic. And you know what I, I do hear Freed from Desire here and I think of Paris all the time.
Alison Brown: Always. ’cause they always played that. [00:43:00]
Jill Jaracz: But you know, you can’t take that. I mean,
Alison Brown: it’s like I hear that song and I immediately taste Nutella in my mouth,
Jill Jaracz: but it, it’s, it’s the inhouse and the venue
Alison Brown: entertainment is rough.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. Really. And I, it makes me sad. I, I know you could be better. So anyway, speed skating, we had the team pursuit, the men, the US was the favorite and they pioneered the strategy of having one person lead the entire race. So now every team is doing this and, uh, why this happened is on the list.
I will tell you that right now. It is fascinating to me. , Uh, Italy beat Netherlands in the semifinals. Which put, Netherlands down into a lower final, which surprised me. Netherlands went into the bronze medal match against China, and China beat them by 0.09 seconds.
Alison Brown: Oh no.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. And the, and another semifinal, US crush [00:44:00] China so much that they were on the same straightaway.
On the end and I was like, oh, are they gonna catch ’em? And then I wondered if you are competing and you see that you can catch them, is part of you going, I want to catch them. And is part of you going, we are winning back off so that you’ve got enough. In the tank for the finals because you, you get, like they wrote, they, uh, flipped back and forth between men and women, so they had a little bit of time to rest, but not a ton.
Alison Brown: No, it’s, it’s a long ways. That’s part of the, that’s part of the plan,
Jill Jaracz: so I. Uh, in the final was Italy versus USA and US was leading for a little while, and then Italy just took over and won by 4.51 seconds,
Alison Brown: which is an eternity.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. In speed
Alison Brown: skating.
Jill Jaracz: And Andrea Giovanni from Italy did the Steph Curry night night at the end.
Alison Brown: Oh. I hate that so much. It’s so insulting to your [00:45:00] competitors.
Jill Jaracz: Well,
Alison Brown: and I don’t say that just because it’s an Italian doing it. I would I say it to Steph Curry ’cause you know,
Jill Jaracz: yeah,
Alison Brown: he listens to me
and that’s why he stopped doing it.
Jill Jaracz: If you would like, if Steph Curry listens to me, pin, let us know. We can make that happen too. I actually did meet Steph Curry. Wait, how did you do that? No, remember in Paris he was at the. The press conference that I was at.
So I did actually meet him. Wait, no. Did you ask a question or were you just in the same room with him? Oh,
I didn’t ask a question, but I waved. Wait a second. You, you sat in a press conference and then you waved to
Alison Brown: soccer? No. When it was time to leave, they all kind of waved, so I waved back because that’s just rude if you don’t. They were [00:46:00] walking out and waving, so I waved back. Okay, so he listens to you.
Jill Jaracz: That’s.
Okay. I told him it was rude.
Was that in the wave communication, did you mumble that like it got to his ears somehow.
Signal signals like flags. I see. Okay. Well. The US did not see the Steph Curry night night. Oh, good, good. Emory Layman from the US said, well, it’s better than the two middle fingers from the Russians that they got four years ago.
It was great.
Alison Brown: Which also is quite rude.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah. Well, yeah, that one’s really rude in the women’s team Pursuit. Um, [00:47:00] uh. Kazakhstan withdrew. So the D final got canceled and then, uh, we do our semi-finals and we get to the, the bronze medal match. It’s Japan versus USA Japan beat them by 3.51 seconds. The US was just down all the time for the whole race.
They felt really off in the last couple laps. But with Japan getting the bronze. Skater Miho Taghi now has 10 Olympic career medals, and she is into the top 50 of all time. So thank you to Brian for that fun fact. And, uh, she’s pretty stoked about that, to be quite longevity there. Uh, Netherland and then the gold silver medal battle was between Canada and Netherlands, and Canada just kept driving on this one.
They beat Canada, uh, Netherlands by 0.96. Uh, seconds. So Canada team has been [00:48:00] skating together for eight years. They say it’s now time to pass the torch, so we’ll see some new skaters coming up.
Alison Brown: Interesting.
Jill Jaracz: Uh, best thing I saw,
Alison Brown: I saw the photos of this
Jill Jaracz: people wearing sequined mounty uniforms
Alison Brown: with shorts.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. With shorts. And they were fabulous. I tried to take pictures in the stands and then I saw them outside the venue and I was like, oh, I need a picture of this. Yeah.
Alison Brown: Excellent.
Jill Jaracz: So loved the fans. Everyone was excited. It was a little bit more of a mix versus all Netherlands.
Alison Brown: Well, you had Italy going for medals, so that’ll That’ll bring out the
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, but they weren’t that much.
There were a lot of Canadians. A lot of Canadians.
Alison Brown: Fair enough.
Jill Jaracz: So
Alison Brown: that was, there’s a lot of Canadians here. I see them at the hockey rink. I saw them tonight actually at skating.
Jill Jaracz: Really?
Alison Brown: There was a good number of Canadians there for Maddie Skies.
Jill Jaracz: Well, that’s good.
Alison Brown: And. Just a lot of maple leaves flying around, which I don’t [00:49:00] mind.
Jill Jaracz: I, I did notice on the ice maintenance, the Zamboni came out and then the team walked the ice with the purple bottle and they did some fill in. And I’m wondering what that, what does Zamboni miss?
Alison Brown: You know, Zamboni is a big brush and sometimes you need the fine tooth comb.
Jill Jaracz: Hopefully, I don’t know. On, on the list.
We’ve really gotta get in the next squad some more. Ice maintenance. Ice maintenance. Alright, that does it for competition today. Who is competing from Shukla on tomorrow.
Alison Brown: Tomorrow we will see Gu Schumacher, uh, at the Cross country men’s team Sprint, Julia Kern in the Women’s Cross Country team Sprint and Deidre Irwin in the Women’s four by six kilometer Bilon relay.
Whew.
Jill Jaracz: Goatee and we have a mascot today.
Alison Brown: We have a mascot today, Millie, the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, who I believe you know,
Jill Jaracz: I do know Millie is adorable.
Alison Brown: Yes. Millie also apparently likes a good cocktail.
Jill Jaracz: Yes, because, uh, and I have been to this place. It’s [00:50:00] fabulous. It is a hair salon slash cocktail bar.
Alison Brown: Yes. And Millie enjoys to share with her family. Yes. When they, when they go.
Jill Jaracz: Yes. So they make a good cocktail and, uh, Millie doesn’t mind when you spill.
Alison Brown: I can’t say that I mind either.
Jill Jaracz: Wait, would you look it up on the
Alison Brown: table? No, I wouldn’t.
Jill Jaracz: Uh, we also have shout out today. Okay.
Alison Brown: Stacey, a k teeny meany from Sacramento, California know she can’t watch every single event, but she’ll be trying very hard to do so.
Jill Jaracz: Okay. So, uh, Tini is one of my derby buddies and she is a Facebook friend. She has new USA themed outfits almost every day of the Olympics.
Alison Brown: Oh, fantastic.
Jill Jaracz: They are fantastic and better
Alison Brown: than the sequence bounties.
Jill Jaracz: Yeah, I would say so. Excellent. I mean, that’s a one off. She can come on for 17 days. So, uh, thank you Tini, for an Olympian. We’ve got Stacy Powell, same church, same pew on [00:51:00] your name, and she’s a platform diver from Great Britain. Competed in 2008 and 2012. So thank you so much, Tini, and that is gonna do it for this episode. If you want even more of the most fun coverage of the games, hit us up. We are@flamealivepod.com.
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Jill Jaracz: And, uh, be sure to tune in tomorrow for what we forgot to tell you about today, which hopefully will not be Logistics beef that I forgot.
Let’s, let’s, let’s all hope for that. Let’s
Alison Brown: just let it go.
Jill Jaracz: I can’t. I just can’t at this point. But anyway. Anyway.
Alison Brown: Maybe Steph Curry can help us.
Jill Jaracz: Well, he’ll listen to you. I haven’t determined whether or not he will listen to me, but I might wear a button that says so, and that may make me feel better.
Alison Brown: Steph Curry listens to me. [00:52:00]
Jill Jaracz: Because I’m a friend of Eric. That’s right.
That’s right. Alright, listeners,
Alison Brown: and until next time, chow and keep the flame alive.