Jill and Alison are on their way home from the Beijing 2022 Winter Paralympics, and a long flight is a perfect time to catch up on movies, so we thought it would be good to have another session of Movie Club with Film Buff Fran. This time, we’re talking about the 2015 film “Eddie the Eagle,” a biopic on the surprise star of the Calgary 1988 Winter Olympics, Eddie “the Eagle” Edwards.

The movie stars Taron Egerton as Edwards and Hugh Jackman as the coach who helps him learn ski jumping just in time to qualify for the Olympics. Along the way, Eddie’s pluck and Olympic enthusiasm captivate the crowds in Calgary, which doesn’t please the British Olympic Association much.

How true to life is this movie? How fun is it to watch? Take a listen to hear our verdict.

Thanks so much for listening, and until next time, keep the flame alive.


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Jill: [00:00:00] Hello, handsome and welcome to another episode of Keep the Flame Alive. The podcast for fans of the Olympics and Paralympics. I am your host. Jill. Jarris joined as always by my lovely co-host. Alison Brown, Alison. Hello. How are you? I see, I see you through the plexiglass of the Main Media Center here in Beijing.

Alison: We are still in Beijing. But we are not in Beijing.

Jill: That’s right. We are, uh, hopefully have just made it home from the Paralympics. And today we are sleeping off the jet lag. So we are recording an episode early to give you something new to listen to. And that would be our conversation with a Film Buff, Fran about our first movie club selection of the year, which is Eddie.

The Eagle about the surprise sensation of the name Calgary in 1988, ski jumping competition. Eddie Edwards, take a listen.

Fran. Welcome back. We are talking about Eddie, the Eagle movie about Eddie, the Eagle Edwards from Calgary, 1988, the famous or infamous British ski jumper who finished dead last in the competition. Well, What do you got for us?

Fran: The movie Eddie, the Eagle was made back in 2015. So it’s a fairly recent movie about the Calgary Olympics and an Olympian in that Olympics.

And it stars Terran Edgerton as Eddie. Along with Hugh Jackman as his coach with some really incredible co-stars, including Jim Broadbent and Christopher Walken. I nearly died. I saw Christopher walk and I, I didn’t look beforehand. I was like, this is going to be a great one. I love Christopher Walken.

But it really, it’s a classic Olympic biopic and, they start out, with Eddie whose real name was Michael as a young boy, you know, and he’s, holding his breath under water and he’s trying to become the best at something because he has these dreams of becoming an Olympian.

And, he realized that early on in the movie that he really is not going to getting very far. So then he switches gears and says, I’m going to be a winter Olympian. And he focuses on skiing. And he tries to make the British Olympic ski team. And this is where, the movie was kind of interesting because it kinda played the British Olympic officials as these upper crust hoity toity, better than now folks who didn’t want some kind of low end poor kid, on the Olympic team. And that’s how they portrayed it in the movie. And even though it seemed as if he had.

As the movie progressed that he had a good skillset, but it pitted him against the establishment. So then he, was not allowed to partake in the British Olympic ski team. So he, figured out a way to get into the Olympics. He wanted to be an Olympian at any.

And so he decided to try ski jumping, which according to the movie, he had never really participated in up to that point. So he, hops a plane goes to Germany and all of a sudden we see him at this ski jumping facility, trying to learn how to ski jump, you know, never having pretty much researched it really.

And there he meets, the typical, you know, all I thought about this movie was the, all the tropes, the typical cast of characters, the happy waitress or owner of the bar that would love to help him out. The curmudgeon coach who he has to coax out of retirement to, get them to the finish line, the other, ski jumpers from Norway who, he was the butt of their jokes, so it had all the fun kind of things you look at in, in this kind of, in these kinds of rags to riches or. These kinds of stories, from the bottom to success, but I got to say, it was a really infectiously good movie for me. I don’t know. There was just something about it where, the positivity and the willingness to, give everything you can for something, was just, he was very infectious.

I thought I, I really enjoyed the character that Taron Edgerton brought to the screen. I don’t know how close he was to the true Eddie the Eagle. but I really enjoyed Taron’s performance. What do you guys think?

Alison: Absolutely agree on Taron’s performance? He was so charming in this movie.

He also played Elton John in Rocketman. And it was funny as I was getting ready to watch this movie, my daughter said does heaped us do biopics? And it’s funny having watched both those films, because there [00:05:00] actually is some similarities to those two pretrials. There’s a certain charisma. There’s a certain.

Outsider ness of that, the way he played Elton John and this, but he absolutely saved this movie for me because it was kind of a cool runnings knockoff.

Fran: You didn’t think that the Norwegians really made it for you? I love the bad guys.

Alison: Was Norway training

Fran: in Germany.

Alison: Why is the Norwegian team in Germany?

Why does Hugh Jackman only have one shirt and no jacket?

Fran: Why is an American who was cast out of the ski jumping universe in Germany? In the middle of nowhere.

Alison: Well, it’s supposed to be Garmisch Partenkirchen, which is not the middle of nowhere. It is know of a previous Olympic host city and is a training center.

But thank goodness for Taron Egerton in this film, because he just was so charming.

Fran: And I liked his mother.

Alison: Who I think actually. Those two characters from the films that I watch, because I don’t really remember this story surprisingly enough. I mean, When I sort of remember it, but I don’t have a good, firsthand memory of it. Both Jeanette and Michael Edwards were that charming.

So that was, that was nice that the film got that right. But I don’t know how much else they got right.

Fran: I did a little research after I watched it first. Cause I just wanted to see what, they came up with. And I heard that it really wasn’t a really truthful biopic. And when I started doing some research, I was really disappointed.

I mean, He didn’t train in Germany. He trained in Lake Placid and I was like, why don’t they just show him training in Lake Placid? Then when you. Wouldn’t they wouldn’t have the hot tub when the sauna with the Germans, but I don’t know. That was just so odd. I’m like did they just want to stay in Europe?

I don’t know. They really said that you know, A lot of the coach was fictitious and he was kind of an amalgam of some other folks that did coach Eddie at some points. What I was struck with was, the whole film they were railing against it was the good versus not so much good versus evil, but it was the establishment and the old Olympic guard versus an upstart who dared kind of mess with the system.

Nobody just, finds a weakness in the point system and the tallies and just gets to go to the Olympics, but he found that loophole where he said it in the movie that, you know, they never changed the qualifications for being in the ski jump competition for, almost 60 years.

So he felt like the regulations weren’t as stringent. So he felt like he could make the team. So he gave it his best shot. And that, push to kind of just do the best that you can. And just being part of the Olympics was the main thrust. He knew he didn’t have a chance to win, but just being there and being a part of it, that was what he was striving for.

And the whole movie, it felt like the establishment was like well, you don’t deserve to be here, period. So you shouldn’t be. You know, let’s make it as hard as possible, you know? and I don’t, I would hope to think that was not what the Olympics is truly about.

Jill: Well, They did change the rules after him to get that loophole and all the we’ve seen this happen in other sports.

Chung Chang with our ski half-pipe that they had changed the rules on that to which I said to Ben today when we were watching it, I said, you know, we need to look at ski mountaineering. Cause they don’t have their stuff too. They don’t really have most of the full range. Maybe we could all go to Milan Cortina and compete, but There’s so many inaccuracies about this movie and so many tropes that you wonder really what it– you take a story that is very heartwarming and very much an inspirational story to, be the best you can be and strive to be that Olympic standard and make a lot of sacrifices to achieve a goal.

And even if that goal isn’t being on top of the podium, taking part is the most important thing as Pierre de Coubertin said all of the stuff that was wrong about the movie, about the original story just takes away from that for me, because I did love Eddie, the Eagle Edwards. I was so captivated by that story.

And the first time I saw this movie, When it hit cable after it came out, [00:10:00] hated it because it was so bad and so wrong. This time around pandemic brain has made me like movies. So I enjoyed it a little bit more this time, but I’m not saying it’s a good movie at all.

Fran: You know what it really does. Do a nice showcase on ski jumping and just how incredibly crazy it is.

I mean, When you think about it, these people risk their lives, even if you’re the best in the world. There’s no guarantees that you can get off the ski jump alive. So it’s a really crazy, depth defining sport to be in. And the fact that this guy decided, oh, That’s all, I’ll make the Olympic team.

I’ll just go for that. It’s pretty incredible that he even, you know, wanted to participate that way, was he just a little kind of daft in the head or, you know,

Jill: oh, you know, you get off the 15 meter hill and you did one jump there, so you can move up to the 40 meter jump. And once you get one jump off of that, you can just move up to the big towers

Fran: and I’ll be in the Olympics and never have done a 90 meter jump.

No one has

Jill: to be a total. Like when I saw that again in the movie, I’m like, there’s no way you can just decide to, oh, Hey, I’m going to, you know, those days are long gone. I’m just going to show up because I happened to be in Paris at the time and a hundred.

Fran: And you know what? I really wanted to look up like some footage from the Olympics because I would have loved to see what the fan reaction was like.

Was that fan reaction like pretty much the way it happened?

Jill: No. Okay. Yes and no, because he already had a following before he got to Calgary. It wasn’t like this magical thing that happened. People showed up at the airport being fans of Eddie, the Eagle, and he was really good at marketing himself and his story.

The place was mobbed. They do have the 70 meter on YouTube. It’s, they cut to Jim McKay after it is ABC coverage of 1988. And just everyone knew who he was beforehand before that they were all cheering for him. And he, landed the first one. And then again, the second jump was just incredible to hear.

But no, none of this, like none of this cheering and dancing around the, the ski jump.

Fran: Kinda like happy Gilmore.

Jill: Comparison movie right there, but no, he did not do that crazy stuff.

Alison: I thought a lost opportunity was the scene with Matti Nykänen. Because Matti Nykänen historically was quite a character himself. I mean, talk about larger than life. And then they sort of had him spouting these Yogi Berra, you know, platitudes of nothingness with this accent where I don’t know what country they thought nobody knew going in was from, it was like, is he from Transylvania?

Is he, I don’t know what is happening there, but I thought that was something they could have done with more historical accuracy and actually come out with a better moment.

Fran: And I thought it was so weird. I’m like there was no way in a competition where the worst performer. Would be coming up after the best one.

You know what I mean? So why would they even be on the elevator together?

Alison: I don’t know. I don’t know how the jumps, the first jump is or do they just draw straws and that’s how you go up the mountain.

Jill: No, I think they’ve contrived that little bit and go to the main part together because their numbers were so far apart.

I think Eddie was 24 and Marty was like 49. So they would’ve gone a number order for the first jump and the second jump they would have gone. Maybe they were a little bit closer, but I can’t, I would’ve thought that it would be the worst jump first and the last jump, the best jump last.

Alison: But they certainly could have easily been in the locker room together.

I didn’t mind the contrived meeting. I felt like if you’re going to bother to contrive this meeting between a legend and sort of an infamous legend, let’s make it a little better. Though I did, the line where they have naughty new and say, if I wasn’t doing this, I’d just be drinking and chasing women.

Cause that was his reputation of being kind of a wild man. So they ha that’s what I mean, they had pieces. Right. And then.

Fran: Yeah.

Jill: I had a hard time believing that Nykänen didn’t know who Edwards was. I mean, honestly, he did not start ski jumping [00:15:00] in night, November of 1987. Right. Or getting to February, 1988 for Calgary, you know, a few months later.

So obviously you’ve got, I think he was ski jumped for a couple of years, at least, or a year beforehand. And so he’s going to be on the circuit and. Matti Nykänen and will the ski jumping world is not that big if you’ll know who the other is.

Fran: Yeah. From the research I did, they said that roughly, he was practicing ski jumping for a couple of years before Calgary and he was on the European circuit.

So he would have known, you know, all these guys, I don’t know how they would have treated him, but, he was around the block. And I was wondering too, when they actually got to the Olympics, how true was the story that he missed the opening ceremony?

Alison: Not true at all, not true at all.

Fran: You put it in, I mean, it’s just kind of silly.

Alison: This is what frustrated me with this movie and Cool Runnings actually, which we haven’t talked about on the show is the actual story is so clever and interesting and dimensional. Why are we boiling it down to the training montage and the drunk coach when you’ve got reality? That is actually quite charming. He marched in the opening ceremony. He was, took it extremely serious. He didn’t think of himself as a novelty jumper, whereas a novelty act, he took it seriously.

And I think that would have been a better movie.

Jill: And he marched to the beat of his own drum so much so that he’s gonna fall to peer pressure to drink for the first time and do shots. I, no, I really, I had a horrible time buying that and it really showed how the writers struggled to find the enemy of the story overcome when I don’t know really what the British Olympic Association thought of him at the time.

I don’t remember that part of the story. Sure. Thrilled, but maybe they were, because it certainly brought a lot of attention to them and to their country, Winter Games were, they aren’t known to be strong competitors. So that may have helped in a way, at least for a while. And just to have this weird random enemy.

Just because we have to hit these high points. It was like somebody who was in charge of production or at the studio who was in charge of this movie said, no, my script writing book says this year and we have to have five montages, and I can get the Hall & Oates song for cheap.

The eighties and all of these weird things. And then you go I spent a lot of time thinking about how did Eddie’s mom get the I’m Eddie’s mom knit, and how did he get this sweater so quickly?

Alison: And we never saw her knitting, a lost opportunity when she’s on the phone with him. Cause he, he did the part about him stealing the truck is actually true. If he took the family van, she has nowhere to go. So she’s got a knit. I mean, it’s such an easy call

Fran: And then the father, being so anti his dream was just, it’s it was so tired, I could see it in the beginning, but, as he, if you could see it from the portrayal, like he was so determined, you know, at some point wouldn’t you just say, you know, we’re behind you, go for it, do your best.

You know, instead of being so anti the whole time, except for the end, after he proves himself, and then he wears the sweater.

Jill: Suddenly, I’m so proud of you.

Alison: You know, what was not tired was the brilliant use of the Frankie goes to Hollywood Two Tribes. That was some brilliant use of music. So it’s when he, I guess it’s when he’s doing his first 70 meter jump and they play that, that was some nice use of eighties, clever music.

I liked that a lot.

Fran: What I found really funny too was when he was already at the Olympics and then he did the 70 meter and then he decides to do the 90. And then all of a sudden you Jackman is in Calgary. Like he just shows up and I was just like, come on. Really. Really honestly, this is where we’re at in this movie.

Alison: And suddenly he had a coat,

Fran: so yeah. And actually you wear a coat this time because it’s more cold in Calgary than it is in Germany. But it’s just I don’t know., I mean, please, I love Hugh Jackman. He can play any role. I will watch the movie, I was just like, come on you, the writers could have done so much better. With the [00:20:00] coach.

Come on.

Alison: It’s the opposite of my two tribes ski jumping moment was when they first show Hugh Jackman attempting a ski jump and he flicks the cigarette.

Fran: I thought he was going to use his cigar from Wolverine. I was waiting for the cigar moment.

Alison: Was this about the same time? Cause every time he looked like when he was doing it, there was a few shots of him, like looking at a mirror, looking at a window and I’m like, why is Wolverine? You looked very Wolverine in this movie that was kind of distressed.

Fran: Yeah, it just, it only really worked just because of the, just that energy that Terran Edgerton had. He had me through this home. I mean, We, it was so funny. My husband was in the room when it started and he wasn’t planning on watching it, but he got absorbed in it. And by the end, when he succeeds and at the 90 meter competition, he actually lands his jump. You can’t help but root for him. I mean, he did when he came there to do, he was, it was such a positive moment for him. Regardless of how crazy it was, you couldn’t help, be really happy and positive. And I mean, I was like crying tears of joy.

I was just like, this is great. I’m so happy for him. You know? And it’s funny because I really thought, like you, Alison, I. Really couldn’t remember how much publicity and how much press there was around Eddie, the Eagle I re I definitely remember him being said, and we probably watched it during, we were watching the Olympics back then, but I thought for certain, he ended up competing in another Olympics.

And then when I did my research, I was really shocked to hear that they had changed the requirement purposely to bar, folks that really weren’t at the top of their game from participating. On the one hand, you know, I got to applaud the Olympic committee for looking out for people’s safety, because it really is such an amazing sport.

You really have to know what you’re doing. And even if you do know what you’re doing, you could still get really hurt. But on the flip side, I was like, oh well, You know, you won’t have in any the. Just trying to do as best, regardless of what country, and I thought at the Olympics, there was other sports and I couldn’t really remember what, but there have been times when the commentators have said, this person or that person is coming to the Olympics to represent their country.

They have no. Of taking home a medal, they’re just here, because they made it and they did their best and they want us, they want to, propel their country and be part of the Olympics, and with that ruling, it kind of takes away that ability,

Alison: Some sports do have continental quotas or places for underrepresented countries to get slots. Ski jumping is not that sport right now.

Fran: It’s just too dangerous,

Alison: Too dangerous.

They’ve done it in some ways in bobsled and in some of the sliding sports and that backfired in various times. That’s a place for.

Cross country skiing and running and swimming sports that you want. You want to expand winter sports. You want people from countries that are underrepresented, you compete. We don’t want anyone to do. And there are sports that will not kill you. So let’s, do the expansion in other ways.

Fran: But it almost felt like it was a personal vendetta in this movie.

And I don’t, necessarily think that’s probably. The reasoning who knows. It just felt very personal. Like they were purposely trying to bar this kid from going to where he wanted to go, you know? and it felt like they, they were using the British team as basically the evil guy who was standing in his way of fulfilling his dream.

Jill: Right. And the reason they barred him is because he. Really thick glasses. It was a little klutzy on the carpet ski mountain that they had in Britain at the time.

Alison: But how charming was Jim Broadbent as the announcer.

Fran: He was great.

Alison: He was like the best OBS announcers that we loved from Tokyo. And I hope show back up for Beijing, can we get Jim Broadbent on the call? That was lovely.

Fran: And Walken. Come on Walken.

Jill: Like, oh, he needed a payday. I really forgot that he was in the movie. He’s in the book, he’s on this book, lover, even hilarious if he just never showed up.

Fran: And then unfortunately I looked up to see if he really was a real person and he was completely fabricated too.

I’m like, you couldn’t bring out real ski [00:25:00] jump personalities for this movie, do a little research, nothing. We got, We got nothing.

Jill: I wonder if the story, the real story was so complicated geographically. Like he spent time in Lake Placid, time in Finland. He ended up working and sleeping in a

Finnish asylum.. That to me is really compelling compared to the, oh, I got a job working in the ski jump bar, which is always crowded for some reason, people ski jumping

Fran: And I had to give some personal favors to the owner of the bar to stay there, which was really creepy.

Alison: It’s like we have to have a woman in this movie. Oh, let’s make her the charming waitress with a heart of gold on.

Fran: Yeah. And I also, I know Alison, you touched on this, but I had in my notes, I said, I don’t understand Hugh’s character, not wearing a coat. What was the point of that?

Alison: And it’s not like he was in an outfit that showed the huge Jackman rippling muscles.

Fran: No.

Alison: Okay. If we’re going to put him like in a tight turtleneck or something, then I can say, okay, we’re trying to appeal to the sex appeal here, but it was just like this schlocky flannel.

Fran: No, but I think the sex appeal was the Norwegian ski jump. And the sauna, it was a terrified with the strategically placed items to hide their nakedness from the camera.

Alison: It was so hard and I am not someone to be horrified by nudity. But that was just so out of place.

Fran: And how did he have his bathing suit with him? Did he think he’d really need a bathing suit? in Germany?

Jill: I’m packing my entire closet and going to learn to ski jump.

Fran: Maybe I’ll need my bathing suit.

Jill: Oh, I brought my skis with me, but obviously the wrong skis coming. So I’m going to go into a store to just do a trade. How does that work?

Almost every minute you’re going, it’s this really?

Alison: And we go to the lost and found, and people have lost entire ski suits.

Jill: You go to the sauna and you forget

This whole movie just felt like a lost opportunity in really fun.

Fran: They probably had a ball making it. They probably had a really fun time and, you know, I think that, I think I read somewhere where they said that the writers, they wanted to just kind of stress, just the positive energy that Eddie had and his undying kind of dedication, to fulfill his dream, you know, when you want, they wanted to capture that, but they kind of drop the ball on everything.

Alison: He did succeed in that. And I think that was the Terran. It was all .

Fran: Yeah.

Alison: Okay. Couple of things. I wanna point out one. We did get a what were their names? Hiti and howdy or Heidi and Hodie. Oh yeah, the mascots were Calgary. We’re hearing from them.

Some really great moments from the opening ceremonies, like the neon clad horse writers.

Fran: Yes, that was fantastic.

Alison: And I do want to say, because I have mentioned many times on the show, my desire to try ski jumping. This has not dampened my enthusiasm. In fact, I’m going to go buy my pack of cigarettes. I go past that as I’m coming down my little 15 meter jump, I’m just going to flick it right at Jill, who will be taking the film next to the take off.

Fran: That would be wonderful,

Alison: Never smoked in my life, but I’m going to learn how to do the Hugh Jackman flick.

Jill: The right spot and it just bursts

Alison: It just bursts into flames for some reason. And I do want the flask waiting for me at the bottom.

Fran: This movie did not make me have any desire to learn how to ski jump whatsoever. Maybe go into a sauna with some Norwegians, but besides that not any desire to try that whatsoever.

Jill: I ain’t got no other words. This was not a good movie to watch when you’re, when your brain just doesn’t want to. But it’s really not.

Fran: It was a feel good movie. So if you just wanted to waste some time on a really freezing cold day, like it was yesterday here in Connecticut and you just wanted to kind of cozy up on the couch and watch something that just made you feel good. This was a [00:30:00] good one to choose.

Alison: And despite the sauna scene, it is a family film, surprisingly enough, because everything

Fran: is it’s played for last PG it’s, everything, EEG,

and a lot of milk. And all I could think of though, Alison is if they’re allowing me to review Eddie, the Eagle. Then come on, Cutting Edge. It’s coming. We got to do Cutting Edge. Come on, girls.

Jill: This is again, along the lines of Gold, not very factual and many of the facts are there was an Olympics in Calgary, and it did have a British ski jumper named Eddie the Eagle Edwards.

Fran: And he did participate in both the 70 meter and the 90 meter. All these facts are coming up. Here’s the facts. Oh man. So he did ski there.

And I thought it was really cute that they did hone in on the fact that at the end, when the host of the Olympics, actually pointed him out in his farewell speech, you know, you could fly like an Eagle. I thought that was very poignant because it just shows you, you can go home without a medal.

But it was special to everybody that was there, you know, not just the medalists. And I think that was what they were trying to get across. It’s not how well you do, it’s just doing your best and, reaching what, just reaching for the stars and getting there, you know, in your eyes.

Jill: And that really shows, oh, that moment also linked because it also showed how much of a story.

And how important Eddie, the Eagle Edwards was in the Calgary games and it was such a game of the underdog because you also had the Cool Running story going on. So there’s a lot of underdog feeling, a lot of take part in that’s what’s important. And I still think that’s a big part of the games. All right, Fran.

Thank you so much for this. Good movie for a cold day when you don’t want to think.

Fran: Anything with Taron Egerton and Hugh Jackman. We’re on board.

Jill: All right. What do we have next time?

Fran: So next up, we have the movie One Light One World, which is the official 1992 Albertville Olympic movie. So we will actually be doing a complete 180 and doing a really awesome factual Olympics movie. So I can’t wait to see what her reaction is to this one.

Jill: Excellent. Fran, thank you so much. And we will see you next time.

Thank you so much, Fran. So, I mean, what would you tell future, Alison, what would you think future Alison would say about your time in Beijing?

Alison: I think future Alison is going to be very upset about all the various snacks that I tried because current Alison is already wondering. Why I keep trying things with labels. I can’t read because so far that has not ended well for me

Jill: Really? Oh, well you have his tea that did not taste.

Alison: I’ve had different teas that were not good. You know, I tried the, um, the oatmeal bar.

Jill: Yeah. That’s not good. It’s dry. The oatmeal, oatmeal stick. It’s dry. Yeah. It’s not good.

Alison: I tried the sea salt cheese crackers.

No.

Jill: Oh, I bet. I think it’s one of my favorites of the bunch.

Alison: I tried the Sesame cracker. I basically tried everything on the media center table today. I was bored for a little while.

Jill: Did you try the brine to egg

Alison: that I’ve now been brave enough to try future? Alison probably did break down and try it. And she was probably, sorry.

Jill: If it plays out at the Paralympics, like it was at the Olympics, different venues will have different options in your snacks. So there are little mini loaves of bread,

little toasts with. Like frosting on them a little bit with a little sweetness. There are other crackers they’re kind of like rice, sea crackers that are very light and airy, but you know, hopefully you’ll find a snack that you enjoy.

Alison: So I hope future Alison is having some popcorn laying in bed, rewatching, Eddie, the Eagle.

Jill: Okay, well, let’s let future Alison do that. I think future Jill will not be rewatching anything. It was very hard to get her to watch a second time. You were. So I cannot tell you how lucky you are, that the pandemic has made my brain. Just be cool with not so great movies. And this wasn’t [00:35:00] even a solid two or two and a half star.

This was like a one and a half star movie.

Alison: Well, hopefully. Hopefully future, Alison is not in a Chinese prison for trying to go down the ski jump and flick a cigarette off the end of it. As I attempt the, the large hill here in Beijing.

Jill: Well, you can’t do that because you have to go down like the 40 meter till first once. And they don’t have one of those here that I have seen.

Alison: I am sitting and I feel nothing.

Jill: All right. Well, I think that’s going to do it for this episode. Next week, we are going to have a contributor round table about our time in Beijing. So send us whatever questions you have about these games or what the close loop was like,

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